Posted on 05/23/2012 3:55:13 AM PDT by IbJensen
WASHINGTON, May 22, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Democrat House leaders including Nancy Pelosi have opposed a measure to ensure military chaplains are not forced to perform same-sex marriages, arguing that it is based on a manufactured crisis and therefore unnecessary - a response strongly criticized by chaplain advocates.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday echoed sentiments issued by the Obama White House regarding the conscience language, part of a defense spending bill, saying that theres nothing that says that chaplains act against their faith.
CNSNews.com, which had queried Pelosi about the language, then asked, So why would you not support the provision that protects them?
Because its a fraud. Its a - welcome to the world of manufactured crises. Heres one, Pelosi responded.
So I think that this bill, its a very serious bill, the Defense Authorization bill. Its about the protection of our country, she said. And to sprinkle it with almost scare tactics that somebody is proposing something that we have to prevent is really a frivolous exploitation of a very serious piece of legislation.
Section 536 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 (H.R. 4310) reinforces conscience protection for servicemen regarding sexuality, and states that officers may not order military chaplains to perform same-sex marriages, or punish them for declining to do so.
The following section, 537, reverses a Pentagon rule issued immediately after the armed forces dont ask, dont tell policy was lifted last Fall, stating that marriage ceremonies for homosexual couples can be performed on military bases.
The amendments were approved on party-line votes in the House Armed Services committee May 10, the same day President Obama announced that he personally supported same-sex marriage.
The White House last Tuesday listed 536 and 537 specifically among several disagreeable portions of the bill, saying that the administration strongly objects to the two sections as unnecessary and ill-advised policies that would inhibit marriage for same-sex couples, a potentially unconstitutional infringement. The conscience rule was criticized specifically as prohibit[ing] all personnel-related actions based on certain religious and moral beliefs.
H.R. 4310 passed the Republican-led House on Friday.
Meanwhile, military chaplain advocates strongly questioned the idea that concern about chaplains conscience rights was manufactured.
Im a little bit perplexed, because if according to her, theres no danger to ministers being forced to act against their conscience, what logical objection could there possibly be to putting that in a law? Archbishop Timothy Broglio of the U.S. Archdiocese for the Military Services told CNSNews.com.
Broglio suggested that perhaps shes not very familiar with how the military works.
While no one might be constrained to act against his or her conscience, you can also have a situation where someone in command makes it very, very difficult for that person, if the command wants him or her to act in a certain way, he saidl. And I think that the law, the provision in the draft, the provision in the bill, would protect the chaplain from that kind of situation.
Dr. Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, offered several reasons to believe the crisis is quite real.
We already have some examples of a chaplain being pulled from an assignment simply because he forwarded an e-mail that was critical of the Dont Ask Dont Tell policy. He was told that You need to be closely supervised. He was threatened that he would have to retire early, he said.
We have another chaplain who asked, Can I speak about this issue? And the commander told him, If you cant get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission. So we have those kind of real life cases that the American public doesnt realize is going on.
Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt, who was court-martialed and removed from the U.S. Navy for praying in Jesus name at a public event in 2007, agreed.
Pelosi and Obama now violate every soldiers right to a sacred worship space devoted to Catholic or Evangelical worship, and threaten to punish chaplains who refuse to turn over the chapel keys, said Klingenschmitt in a statement Friday.
Nutsy can't be so damned stupid that she doesn't realize that the extreme posturing the left does with homosexuals makes a real soldier despise queers.
These aberrant sodomists have no place in the service. In fact, they have no place in polite society!
Her opposition to the measure doesn't square with her statement that it's meaningless. If the measure only reaffirms the status quo, then there is no reason to oppose it. Well, I suppose she could be concerned about spending five extra minutes of precious legislative time on it, but nah. That's nonsense, too.
"Get in line!" That is what the homosexual activists want. You will give up your right to call homosexuality a sin or you will resign!
LLS
As a former command masterchief, I can tell you from first hand expierence that the majority of chaplains that I came in contact with were more worried about their standing with the commanding officer and their next fitness report than they were with the sailors. I’ve long held the belief that chaplains should be civilians assigned by their different religious organizations to serve temporary assignments to the military. This would hopefully take the politics and apple polishing for the next promotion away from the position. Another pet peeve of mine was that the chaplains I knew all seemed to think they were the union represenative of all the worthless snuffies we were processing out of the navy until called down by the commanding officer.
Who the hell are these a-holes to tell Chaplins or anyone what to do?
pelosi should be placed in stocks in a public square for all to throw rotten poop at.
Makes good sense.
I keep looking up for the big asteroid.
It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.
Satan lives - for a while longer at least. I take heart from Doctor David Jeremiah’s assertion, that Satan cannot harm us without our consent. As individuals, we need not fear him. I can do all things through my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who gives me strength.
San Francisco renamed a street after Pelosi. Lombard Street is no longer the most crooked street in SF.
If you cant get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission.
I don’t understand, can anyone hear explain.?I was in the Navay 22 years. Before DADT, homosexuality was illegal, it was even asked on entrance forms, that was the whole reason to have DADT. So if it was repealed, did Congress enact a new law making homosexuality in the military legal?
If you cant get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission.
I don’t understand, can anyone hear explain.?I was in the Navy 22 years. Before DADT, homosexuality was illegal, it was even asked on entrance forms, that was the whole reason to have DADT. So if it was repealed, did Congress enact a new law making homosexuality in the military legal?
Pelosi is a lost soul. Pity her.
Obama and Pelosi would be happy to see all military chaplain’s resign.
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