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Pelosi slams measure to protect military chaplains from being forced to hold gay weddings
Life Site News ^ | 5/22/2012 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 05/23/2012 3:55:13 AM PDT by IbJensen

WASHINGTON, May 22, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Democrat House leaders including Nancy Pelosi have opposed a measure to ensure military chaplains are not forced to perform same-sex “marriages,” arguing that it is based on a “manufactured crisis” and therefore unnecessary - a response strongly criticized by chaplain advocates.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday echoed sentiments issued by the Obama White House regarding the conscience language, part of a defense spending bill, saying that “there’s nothing that says that chaplains act against their faith.”

CNSNews.com, which had queried Pelosi about the language, then asked, “So why would you not support the provision that protects them?”

“Because it’s a fraud. It’s a - welcome to the world of manufactured crises. Here’s one,” Pelosi responded.

“So I think that this bill, it’s a very serious bill, the Defense Authorization bill. It’s about the protection of our country,” she said. “And to sprinkle it with almost scare tactics that somebody is proposing something that we have to prevent is really a frivolous exploitation of a very serious piece of legislation.”

Section 536 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 (H.R. 4310) reinforces conscience protection for servicemen regarding sexuality, and states that officers may not order military chaplains to perform same-sex “marriages,” or punish them for declining to do so.

The following section, 537, reverses a Pentagon rule issued immediately after the armed forces’ “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was lifted last Fall, stating that marriage ceremonies for homosexual couples can be performed on military bases.

The amendments were approved on party-line votes in the House Armed Services committee May 10, the same day President Obama announced that he “personally” supported same-sex “marriage.”

The White House last Tuesday listed 536 and 537 specifically among several disagreeable portions of the bill, saying that the administration “strongly objects” to the two sections as “unnecessary and ill-advised policies that would inhibit” marriage for same-sex couples, a “potentially unconstitutional” infringement. The conscience rule was criticized specifically as “prohibit[ing] all personnel-related actions based on certain religious and moral beliefs.”

H.R. 4310 passed the Republican-led House on Friday.

Meanwhile, military chaplain advocates strongly questioned the idea that concern about chaplains’ conscience rights was “manufactured.”

“I’m a little bit perplexed, because if according to her, there’s no danger to ministers being forced to act against their conscience, what logical objection could there possibly be to putting that in a law?” Archbishop Timothy Broglio of the U.S. Archdiocese for the Military Services told CNSNews.com.

Broglio suggested that “perhaps she’s not very familiar with how the military works.”

“While no one might be constrained to act against his or her conscience, you can also have a situation where someone in command makes it very, very difficult for that person, if the command wants him or her to act in a certain way,” he saidl. “And I think that the law, the provision in the draft, the provision in the bill, would protect the chaplain from that kind of situation.”

Dr. Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, offered several reasons to believe the crisis is quite real.

“We already have some examples of a chaplain being pulled from an assignment simply because he forwarded an e-mail that was critical of the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy. He was told that ‘You need to be closely supervised.’ He was threatened that he would have to retire early,” he said.

“We have another chaplain who asked, “Can I speak about this issue? And the commander told him, ‘If you can’t get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission.’ So we have those kind of real life cases that the American public doesn’t realize is going on.”

Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt, who was court-martialed and removed from the U.S. Navy for praying “in Jesus’ name” at a public event in 2007, agreed.

“Pelosi and Obama now violate every soldier’s right to a sacred worship space devoted to Catholic or Evangelical worship, and threaten to punish chaplains who refuse to turn over the chapel keys,” said Klingenschmitt in a statement Friday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: noncatholic; nutsypelosi; prideofsanfran; screechingmimi
No surprise here. These people will not be happy until Western Civilization and White Christians who WERE responsible for the freest and most creative culture in the history of the world is destroyed.

Nutsy can't be so damned stupid that she doesn't realize that the extreme posturing the left does with homosexuals makes a real soldier despise queers.

These aberrant sodomists have no place in the service. In fact, they have no place in polite society!

1 posted on 05/23/2012 3:55:30 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Easiest explanation for why Nancy Pelosi opposes the measure? She supports the gay agenda and would love to force chaplains to hold gay weddings. I don't doubt for an instant that she'd also have gay couples living in base housing and getting full marital pay and benefits if she had her way.

Her opposition to the measure doesn't square with her statement that it's meaningless. If the measure only reaffirms the status quo, then there is no reason to oppose it. Well, I suppose she could be concerned about spending five extra minutes of precious legislative time on it, but nah. That's nonsense, too.

2 posted on 05/23/2012 4:06:05 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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‘If you can’t get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission.’

"Get in line!" That is what the homosexual activists want. You will give up your right to call homosexuality a sin or you will resign!

3 posted on 05/23/2012 4:07:23 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: IbJensen
It was assured that satan’s succubus would preach his evil.

LLS

4 posted on 05/23/2012 4:13:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: IbJensen

As a former command masterchief, I can tell you from first hand expierence that the majority of chaplains that I came in contact with were more worried about their standing with the commanding officer and their next fitness report than they were with the sailors. I’ve long held the belief that chaplains should be civilians assigned by their different religious organizations to serve temporary assignments to the military. This would hopefully take the politics and apple polishing for the next promotion away from the position. Another pet peeve of mine was that the chaplains I knew all seemed to think they were the union represenative of all the worthless snuffies we were processing out of the navy until called down by the commanding officer.


5 posted on 05/23/2012 4:18:21 AM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: IbJensen

Who the hell are these a-holes to tell Chaplins or anyone what to do?
pelosi should be placed in stocks in a public square for all to throw rotten poop at.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 4:55:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: BTCM

Makes good sense.


7 posted on 05/23/2012 4:59:39 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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I sincerely hope that if military chaplains are forced to conduct homosexual “weddings” that at least some of them,if not many,refuse and go to court martial rather than submit quietly.
8 posted on 05/23/2012 5:22:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: IbJensen

I keep looking up for the big asteroid.

It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.


9 posted on 05/23/2012 5:29:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: IbJensen

Satan lives - for a while longer at least. I take heart from Doctor David Jeremiah’s assertion, that Satan cannot harm us without our consent. As individuals, we need not fear him. I can do all things through my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who gives me strength.


10 posted on 05/23/2012 5:34:52 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: IbJensen

San Francisco renamed a street after Pelosi. Lombard Street is no longer the most crooked street in SF.


11 posted on 05/23/2012 5:40:22 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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‘If you can’t get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission.’

I don’t understand, can anyone hear explain.?I was in the Navay 22 years. Before DADT, homosexuality was illegal, it was even asked on entrance forms, that was the whole reason to have DADT. So if it was repealed, did Congress enact a new law making homosexuality in the military legal?


12 posted on 05/23/2012 6:02:42 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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‘If you can’t get in line (with the military policy in support of homosexuality), resign your commission.’

I don’t understand, can anyone hear explain.?I was in the Navy 22 years. Before DADT, homosexuality was illegal, it was even asked on entrance forms, that was the whole reason to have DADT. So if it was repealed, did Congress enact a new law making homosexuality in the military legal?


13 posted on 05/23/2012 6:03:01 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: IbJensen
Just imagine, a muzzy chaplain being forced to perform a marriage ceremony for a gay couple.
14 posted on 05/23/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: IbJensen

Pelosi is a lost soul. Pity her.


15 posted on 05/23/2012 6:17:02 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: IbJensen

Obama and Pelosi would be happy to see all military chaplain’s resign.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 6:24:36 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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17 posted on 05/23/2012 8:37:00 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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