Posted on 05/22/2012 7:56:20 AM PDT by Brown Deer
Two men who identified themselves as being from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office in Phoenix went to the Hawaii Department of Health Monday morning requesting verification of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, said a state spokeswoman.
A Hawaii deputy attorney general gave the men information concerning the legal requirements to obtain such a document; the requirements are posted on the Health Department's website. The two men then left the office, Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.
The two men showed Maricopa County Sheriff's Office badges and identified themselves as Michael Zullo and Brian Mackiewcz, Okubo said. They are "authorized by the Sheriff of Maricopa County, who is conducting an official investigation," a spokesman for the sheriff's office said in an email.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been researching Obama's residency status using a volunteer cold-case "posse," but now has employed a taxpayer-funded deputy, The Arizona Republic reported Monday.
Zullo is a volunteer, the Republic reported, but Okubo said that Mackiewicz presented a business card showing he is with the Threats Management Unit of the sheriff's office.
Arapaio's birth certificate investigation comes as the U.S. Justice Department is suing his office for alleged civil rights violations, including discrimination against Hispanics.
Separately, Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, who says he is not a "birther," said in a radio interview Thursday that Obama's Arizona ballot status is in question unless Hawaii responds positively to his request under a Hawaii law regarding confirmation of birth certificates.
Hawaii Department of Attorney General spokesman Josh Wisch said Monday the department has been in touch with Bennett since Friday and that he would need to provide legal authority showing his office is "a governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency's or organization's activities."
Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. Birthers contend Obama was not born in the United States and thus not eligible to be president. The state released a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate last year, but the release did not satisfy many birthers.
Bennett, a Republican who is reportedly considering a run for governor in Arizona, said Friday he assumes he'll get the confirmation he requested in March from Hawaii officials.
Whew!!! Finally finished wading through all those 9000+ posts this morning; read all night, I did. (wink)
I do, however, seem to have missed something. Might you, perhaps, direct me to one of those posts that credibly asserts that the PARENTS of an American NBC must be BORN IN THE USA?
Parents do not have to be born in the US for the child to be a natural born citizen, the parents must be citizens at the time of the birth of the child.
To be “natural born” you must be born to citizens. At the Framing, the citizenship of the wife followed that of the husband, hence two citizen parents.
LOL.....Go Dog!
He will help find it.
;)
Oh,oh.
You are supposed to include the person you are criticizing as a recipient of the post.
Agreed. Thank you.
And yet at least nine times the US supreme Court has defined “natural born” as born of two citizen parents.
English common law was to be ignored as much as possible for definitions, I mean we where at war with them!
The "Certificate of Live Birth" that was released by obama shows his mother to be 18 years old. Looks as if they tried to cover this one.
Post 80
Yes it would, you have to wonder why the Speaker of the House or any number of his committee chairman have not obtained that information.
Of course you have to believe they don't already know all that information, but I personally am pretty sure they already know all that, so either they are incredibly stupid, corrupt or complicit.
Punchamullah, mears just reminded me that I should have pinged you to this comment because it pertains to you. Sorry I forgot.
"Full faith and credit" in the Constitution gives Arizona all the requirement it needs.
The Supremacy clause in the Constitution overrides Hawaii's laws on the matter of Arizona's access.
-PJ
Thank you, you voiced what I have been trying to piece together for years.
Minor is president
Ark is dicta
And Obama is still not qualified.
Like I said in an earlier post the experts on this subject reside here on FREE REPUBLIC.
That's what we said when the first COLB came out.
-PJ
See post 195..... long read but good and no the parents of an NBC do not have to be born in the US they do however have to be US citizens at the birth.
To put it another way two people born in say China come to the US legally, they study, take the oath and become US citizens. They then start a family, any children of those two will be/are “natural born citizens”
Minor is president, Ark is dicta and Obama is still not qualified.
Re: Minor—do you mean “precedent”?
YES hanging my head
Remind me next time to read the post as well as spell check it.
Thanks for putting up the link to your most excellent analysis. I forgot to bookmark it when I originally read it back in January. It’s now been added.
Thanks again.
I like it.
Truther + Birfer = Proofer.
-PJ
Secondly, I do not seek credit...
Too bad, I'm giving it to you whether you want it or not.
2) I relied heavily on the work of others in writing my essay.
I've relied heavily on the work of others as well in my learning. However, you went through the effort of nicely putting it all together and deserve due credit.
Don't pay attention. It's a repeat of a movie we've all seen before.
Just read this thread: Rubio and Birthright Citizenship.
Be sure to read this post to see what the plain-meaning really was in 1791.
Then read this and this to decide on how much more effort you want to commit to this person's debate.
-PJ
Excellent work by a member of the Class of ‘98.
Thank you.
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