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Yet more proof that our federal government is just too large. We must starve this beast before it puts us all in prison.
1 posted on 05/22/2012 7:49:00 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Maybe some of these brain-dead liberal musicians will start to re-think their support of big government Democrats.


2 posted on 05/22/2012 7:53:37 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: theBuckwheat
I told them geee-tar players to vote Democrat, that life would be easier for 'em, but did they listen? NO-O-O-O....

This is not just insane. It's criminally insane.

3 posted on 05/22/2012 7:54:35 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: theBuckwheat

This is really great news, most rock and rollers are liberals, I would love to hear their support for big government and the fascist democrats after their Gibson’s are taken.


4 posted on 05/22/2012 7:55:00 AM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: theBuckwheat

Allow me to note that it is utter abhorrent to me that we would base a US law on whether or not a US citizen in the US violated the law of another country. How this can be Constitutional is beyond me.

see also:

Keeping US Safe From Plastic-packed Lobster Tails
Complexity of laws leading to “over-criminalization” of America?

By Robert Longley,

Diane Huang, a small business owner from New Jersey, is scheduled to enter federal prison on July 21, where she will begin serving a two-year sentence for purchasing undersized lobster tails shipped in clear plastic bags. Under the Lacey Act, a U.S. law, it is illegal to take wildlife in violation
of foreign law. The lobsters Ms. Huang purchased violated obscure laws of Honduras because they were shipped in clear plastic bags, rather than opaque cardboard boxes, and a small percentage of the lobsters did not measure to
5.5 inches in length....

In 1999, Huang was charged with a felony count of conspiracy to smuggle (Huang was in the supply chain, having purchased the “unlawful” lobster tails). However, the Honduran laws, which served as the basis for the U.S. government’s case against Ms. Huang, are no longer valid – a fact the
government of Honduras pointed out when it filed an amicus brief with both the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court. Huang’s conviction along with those of three others, were upheld in March 2003.

Commenting on the plight of Huang, National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) Legal Foundation Executive Director Karen Harned said, “Sharing stories like that of Diane Huang can go far in shedding light on the dark corner of government prosecution. But perhaps just as significant
is that Diane’s story serves as an example of how easily the life of a small-business owner can be turned upside down by the more than 4,000 separate federal criminal offenses on the books that could send any small-business owner to the same place Diane Huang is going – prison.”....

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/alobsterstail.htm

In the case of Gibson Guitars, they were accused of violating a foreign law regarding lumbering. The country involved denies that Gibson violated that law. How can a US citizen adjudicate such a question in US court? They cannot!


5 posted on 05/22/2012 7:55:00 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Things like this aren’t done for the sake of saving endangered species. The purposes are 1) To remind the sheep who is boss and 2) To give a certain failing Presidential candidate a chance to look like the good guy by “suspending” enforcement of this law after a couple of high-profile incidents.


7 posted on 05/22/2012 7:56:39 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: theBuckwheat; All

I would like to believe that a win for Romney in November would turn this around. I’m not foolish enough to believe that though. What is required is a complete dismemberment of the federal bureaucracies, a sorting out of the useful agencies and their re-launching contingent on good behavior. How would such a thing be facilitated? I leave that to your imaginations and, as an assist, you can simply forget that a Romney administration would fix that.


10 posted on 05/22/2012 8:04:18 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: theBuckwheat; Disambiguator; stockpirate; GrandJediMasterYoda
C'mon people! What are you thinking?

Apparently you think it's just dandy for a bunch of liberal artists to have their legitimately purchased and owned private property seized by the federal government for political purposes.

Is that a conservative position?

Or are y'all just lazy and forgot your "/sarc" tags?????

I'm not defending the liberals' political leanings. I'm defending ownership of private property. That's a conservative value, guys.

11 posted on 05/22/2012 8:05:07 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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What do these libtards think? Let’s take a guitar that may, or may not have been made by an endangered tree; will they then plant that guitar and regrow the tree?

How about we follow the US Constitution, and first the Libtards PROVE that the guitar is manufactured from an endangered tree - at least then we’ll have the pretext of judicial practice before they seize private property.


12 posted on 05/22/2012 8:05:52 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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- MEN N BARACK -


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by Larry Sinclair

13 posted on 05/22/2012 8:06:01 AM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: theBuckwheat

It is amazing how our Government has been reduced to useless thuggery in Three short Years.
God this administration is disgusting and Pernicious.
Must be removed ,, Please God. PLEASE, PLEASE.


15 posted on 05/22/2012 8:09:21 AM PDT by chatham
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To: theBuckwheat

It is amazing how our Government has been reduced to useless thuggery in Three short Years.
God this administration is disgusting and Pernicious.
Must be removed ,, Please God. PLEASE, PLEASE.


16 posted on 05/22/2012 8:09:40 AM PDT by chatham
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To: theBuckwheat

It is amazing how our Government has been reduced to useless thuggery in Three short Years.
God this administration is disgusting and Pernicious.
Must be removed ,, Please God. PLEASE, PLEASE.


17 posted on 05/22/2012 8:09:53 AM PDT by chatham
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To: theBuckwheat

Just wait til the Feds hear about grenadilla wood from Africa and Honduras rosewood used for clarinets and oboes. First thing, they will close down music altogether like the muslim culture.


22 posted on 05/22/2012 8:19:24 AM PDT by maplenut
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To: theBuckwheat

I am ALWAYS at the front of the line to poop
on Barry’s Gay Pride Parade, BUT:

I saw this guitar story on FB the other day
and went to do do some research because it
seemed fishy.

The current, (OP posted) circulating story is a
little off.

I found the WHOLE story on one website,
but now can only find it on the Fox News site.

Here’s the thing; the original story was twisted
and spun and excerpted to make OUR heads explode,
and make us look foolish over a ‘non-issue’.
I hope this helps.

Sen Alexander was speaking about the bill he helped
to pass; Here’s a snip from the Fox article:

-Could federal law be cited to confiscate the
instruments of American artists traveling abroad
for the summer concert season?

If so, federal law is going to need a little
tweaking, Sen. Lamar Alexander said.

I don’t want the musicians from Nashville who are
flying to Canada to perform this summer to worry
about the government seizing their guitars,”
Alexander, R-Tenn., said Friday in a statement
released by his office

Link:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/18/law-could-be-used-to-seize-musicians-guitars-may-need-fix-senator-says/


23 posted on 05/22/2012 8:21:27 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: theBuckwheat; Scoutmaster

Old news. Steam guitars are all the rage now.

25 posted on 05/22/2012 8:26:58 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: theBuckwheat
The picture of communist America is beginning to show it power. America, if you don't change your anti Romney and get on the bandwagon we will have lost our freedom or what is left of it. The coming riots will be the tool to finish elections. Too bad some idiots worked their ass off kicking Newt.
28 posted on 05/22/2012 8:29:13 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: theBuckwheat

Funny, what I saw and read was proof that headlines don’t have to match the story they headline in any meaningful fashion.


29 posted on 05/22/2012 8:31:08 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Salvation

Oregon ping. Senator Wyden is actually doing something sensible for a change...


36 posted on 05/22/2012 8:55:03 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: theBuckwheat
NOT MANY BLACK GUITARISTS, HUH MR. HOLDER.. TANNING SALON TAX TOO?
42 posted on 05/22/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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Alexander, whose state is home to famed Gibson Guitars used by bands and stars like Van Halen, the Allman Brothers, Sheryl Crow, Ted Nugent and Paul McCartney, said Friday that he and Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden are working to protect the artists, their instruments and makers and eventually change the law governing illegal wood harvesting.

Nuge? RUH ROH!

48 posted on 05/22/2012 9:59:27 AM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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