I still ask how Zimmerman got from his car where he was perfectly safe, to the street where he got beat up and Martin got shot? Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin by the dispatcher when he called the police, and he was in his car then.
He was told NO SUCH THING. The dispatcher said we don’t need you to do that, quite different then saying don’t do that.
“we don’t NEED you to do that” is not a lawful order from a police officer.
“I still ask how Zimmerman got from his car where he was perfectly safe, to the street where he got beat up and Martin got shot? “
Even if true, stupidity is not a crime, nor does it vitiate self-defense
Is a drunk woman wearing a slutty dress walking in an alley at 2:30am not entitled to shoot her rapist?
Dispatchers don’t give lawful orders.
Wrong. George had already exited his vehicle when the dispatcher told him not to follow Martin.
News to me that Zimmerman was in his car when told not to follow Martin. All indications were that he was on foot, said ok to the request not to follow, and was on a path to return to his vehicle to meet with the Police.
Am I wrong?
“I still ask how Zimmerman got from his car where he was perfectly safe, to the street where he got beat up and Martin got shot?”
I think I heard he was looking to see what street he was on, or something. It wouldn’t matter, anyway. Getting out of your car is not to forfeit your right to self-defense. It would have to be demonstrated that he got out of his car and proceeded to confront Martin in such a way as to force Martin into defending himself with violence.
The medical evidence doesn’t suggest that was the case, but it’s still possible. Still, if Zimmerman started the fight the prosecution has to prove it. The fact that he got out of his truck does no such thing.
“Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin by the dispatcher when he called the police, and he was in his car then.”
He wasn’t exactly told not to, they just said they don’t need him to. Even if he was talking to the police, I don’t believe they’re empowered, away from the scene like that, to lawfully order him not to follow, as following is not illegal. That being said, do we know he was still following Martin after the supposed quasi-police quasi-order? We know there was a confrontation and a fight afterwards, but do we know that even if the fight wouldn’t have happened had Zimmerman stayed in his vehicle that Zimmerman got out of his vehicle to track Martin? So far as I know, that has not been established.
So at best we don’t know whether Zimmerman disobeyed the dispatcher. It’s very possible that he got out to read a street sign, or whatever he said, and that Martin, of his own violition, deliberately came upon him. But let’s say it was the opposite, and Zimmerman got out of his car in order to start a fist fight with Martin, in the hopes that he’d be able to use his gun on him. Again, the prosecution has to prove it, and again, Zimmerman getting out of the truck does no such thing.
Proof that even FReepers can blow the facts in this case. I see at least two incorrect things right there.
Bull.
Zimmerman was told that he didn’t need to do that.
No he wasn't.
wrong....was following him and was told NOT TO CONTINUE
If you bothered listening to the dispatcher tapes, you’d hear the dispatcher ASK GZ to tell him where he (the perp) is; GZ then gets out of his car and begins to look for him so he can report back.
Z-Man makes his own rules!