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To: Innovative

“The idea is not that the physical object is teleported but the information that describes it. This can then be applied to a similar object in a new location which effectively takes on the new identity.”

I’m an economist not a physicist but this doesn’t sound like teleportation to me. Rather it is the transmission of information not the transmission of an object.

Will someone more enlightened inform an ignorant economist what I’m missing?


3 posted on 05/12/2012 8:21:40 PM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: Black_Shark

I take it as an advanced copy of something.


4 posted on 05/12/2012 8:26:37 PM PDT by classified
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To: Black_Shark
Will someone more enlightened inform an ignorant economist what I’m missing?

I could inform you, but I would have to charge you...

5 posted on 05/12/2012 8:33:55 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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To: Black_Shark

I believe you’re correct. Quantum entanglement allows 2 entangled particles to have the same “information” regardless of how far apart the objects are. I have no clue how or why it works, and am not sure anyone else does either - but it’s not teleportation in the Star Trek sense.


6 posted on 05/12/2012 8:34:58 PM PDT by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Black_Shark

go to the Technology Review link I posted in my post 1, they have more explanation.

But basically something is in one place, then the same/or at least identical something appears at a different location, without it having actually having moved there by moving through the space between the two location.

Hi, I am here at point A.

Next I am calling for you from point B, without actually being observed on route from A to B.


7 posted on 05/12/2012 8:44:21 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Black_Shark
Will someone more enlightened inform an ignorant economist what I’m missing?

Famously referred to as "spooky action at a distance."

10 posted on 05/12/2012 8:53:46 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Black_Shark
Rather it is the transmission of information not the transmission of an object.

Just think of it like Internet Porn.

11 posted on 05/12/2012 9:26:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Black_Shark
The statement is completely wrong. No information in the sense understood by laymen is transmitted at superluminal velocity by quantum teleportation; if that were possible causality could be violated.

There is a sleight of hand involved here. What is done is that the state vector (colloquially, and less correctly, called a "wave function" by some) of a photon at distance is entangled with the state vector of a nearby photon. By manipulating the state of the near photon, a change in the state of the remote photon occurs. Because photons (actually all quantum particles) are indistinguishable, the state change reflected in the remote photon is identical to the appearance of a "new" photon with the same state.

However, since an observer at distance cannot know the state of our "nearby" photon (which is remote from his point of view) without exchanging state descriptions with us, there is actually no information being transmitted until an ordinary radio transmission (or pony express rider, or some other conventional information process) actually verifies the content. Roughly, the particles "know" they have been changed ("spooky action at a distance," in Einstein's words) but this knowledge cannot do anyone any good until ordinary messages can be exchanged.

This is the position of orthodox physics. It is not controversial, although there are a few (actually respected) dissenters who claim information can be exchanged in this way. But they have never constructed an experiment that shows how.

This article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation does not completely suck, even though it is from Wikipedia. If you are very interested, also have a look at the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox which is the original paper that got people thinking about the question of quantum entanglement. Both of these articles are accessible to an intelligent layman. The article on the EPR paradox is the better of the two. Interestingly, Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen believed their "paradox" would overthrow Quantum Mechanics.

They were mistaken; it is not a paradox. It is the way the universe actually behaves.

If you want to follow this rabbit quite far down the hole, the issue was resolved (to the current state of our knowledge) by Bell's Theorem. Have a look there if you are an economist with a decent mathematical background and some time.

17 posted on 05/12/2012 11:26:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna (2.9979 times ten to the eight meters per second: not just a good idea, it's The Law.)
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To: Black_Shark
I'm just an old ex-cotton chopper/picker with an eitght grade educakion.

But I have often thought the simplest way (ha, that's an oxymoron) to do such was gather all the information down to the subatomic structure of an object, transmit it and reconstruct a clone of the object elsewhere. IE: a clone

18 posted on 05/12/2012 11:33:53 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be.)
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To: Black_Shark

Maybe the original is destroyed as it is codified and the new code “creates” the “teleported” version. Can’t think of how why ecept for the fact that nothing is truly destroyed/created (other than wht God accomplished), but all springs from other forms and changes to other forms.


35 posted on 05/13/2012 5:41:11 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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