"Changes in carbon-14 concentration in the Earth's atmosphere, which serves as a long term proxy of solar activity. Note the present day is on the left-hand side of this figure."
Posted on 05/10/2012 6:26:07 AM PDT by servo1969
Bill Nye the Science Guy told the Daily Caller on Tuesday that climate change is a bigger problem than the economy or high unemployment.
He also said that “this notion that government is inherently bad is new,” and after the November election, President Barack Obama will “have a freer hand.”
Bill Nye, who was in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday speaking on behalf of the Planetary Society, said that he is “very concerned about climate change,” adding that, “you can talk about the economy and short-term jobs and so on — but there are much bigger problems.”
On the president, who Nye supported in his first run, the former television host said, “He has a lot of constraints until he gets re-elected. He can’t do what, certainly, my parents would have thought were routine things — social programs. This notion that government is inherently bad is new.” Nye added. “Whoever’s in charge can’t do anything about it until after the election. … He’ll have a freer hand.”
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
“this notion that government is inherently bad is new
That statement right there, shows the guy is an idiot.
I think the American Revolution sprang out of the idea that government is inherently bad, hello, earth to what’s his face
oh lord, isn’ t that where sasha and malia go to school
Bill Nye, the lyin’ guy..
This looks like a string of quotes designed to scare patriotic Americans. I knew Bill Nye was liberal, but this is over the top. The comments on Obama having a freer hand if re-elected are also likely to be true. I hope all decent Americans are prepared in case we have to face this nightmare.
Governments around the world are utterly lost in debt financing the out of control social programs and such that got them elected and keep them in office. Panic time!
"Global Warming" is a the ultimate dream come true for politicians everywhere!
Done right, it is a vastly deep money well that politicians can tap into and thus keep their power, while granting them absolute power at the same time!
Does Nye realize he's just another useful idiot? Probably not, but let's hope his audience does.
Bill Nye the Science Jerk
I just want to jump in on the “this guy is an idiot” bandwagon.
Sort of like with missile defense, eh?
Open Mic Catches Obama Asking Medvedev for Space on Missile Defense
March 26, 2012
"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.
“This is my last election,” Obama told Medvedev. “After my election I have more flexibility.”
“I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."
http://fox8.com/2012/03/26/open-mic-catches-obama-asking-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense/
I was thinking that “Bill Nye the leftist boot-licker guy” would be more appropriate...
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD
ABSTRACT:
"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.
Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause [historically -etl]. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.
If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change
ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm
"Changes in carbon-14 concentration in the Earth's atmosphere, which serves as a long term proxy of solar activity. Note the present day is on the left-hand side of this figure."
Here is what I wrote to him when he asked me for money to lobby to restore 0bama’s cuts to NASA:
Bill,
You guys were all excited about Barack Obama. Now you are finding out what we who actually read some of the things he wrote knew all along. The only science he supports is the science that says we are guilty of damaging the planet. Obama thinks that America should not be better than any other country in the world and since we were obviously better in manned space exploration and planetary science missions he is working hard to cut us down to size. No amount of lobbying can change his mind because he is a dedicated Marxist and always has been. Your only hope is to kiss up to him and hope he doesn’t treat you like Uncle Joe Stalin used to treat scientists who questioned the party line.
"A new [2004] analysis shows that the Sun is more active now than it has been at anytime in the previous 1,000 years. Scientists based at the Institute for Astronomy in Zurich used ice cores from Greenland to construct a picture of our star's activity in the past. They say that over the last century the number of sunspots rose at the same time that the Earth's climate became steadily warmer."..."In particular, it has been noted that between about 1645 and 1715, few sunspots were seen on the Sun's surface.
This period is called the Maunder Minimum after the English astronomer who studied it. It coincided with a spell of prolonged cold weather often referred to as the "Little Ice Age". Solar scientists strongly suspect there is a link between the two events - but the exact mechanism remains elusive."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3869753.stm
OOPS I left out something. Copy should read:
Mt Pinatubo in the Philippines released more green house gases than the Industrial Revolution. How are we supposed to undo all the volcanoes, human activity and the heat form the sun? /S
Thanks for this thread.
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” - - - This notion that government is inherently bad is new.” Nye added. “Whoever’s in charge can’t do anything about it until after the election. … He’ll have a freer hand.”
HEY! BILL NYE! Yeah, YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Point # 1: Remember Thomas Jefferson? He thought that Government should be as small and frugal as possible, because it was a necessary evil.
The original 13 States fought against the most powerful government in the World for YEARS because the British “government was inherently bad.”
The “Don’t Tread on Me” Flag is older than the Betsy Ross American Flag.
Point # 2: “ - - - after the election. … He’ll have a freer hand.” is EXACTLY what Marxist Dictator Obama told the Russians he would do. Dictator Obama used the term “more flexible.”
If you Science is as “flexible” as your sorry knowledge of American politics, then maybe you should move to Kenya with Obama.
From GreenLeft.org
VENEZUELA: Chavez calls for global offensive for socialism
August 31, 2005
excerpts...
"The environment is suffering damage that could be irreversible — global warming, the greenhouse effect, the melting of the polar ice caps, the rising sea level, hurricanes — with terrible social occurrences that will shake life on this planet."
"I believe this idea has a strong connection with reality. I don't think we have much time. Fidel Castro said in one of his speeches I read not so long ago, 'tomorrow could be too late, let's do now what we need to do'."
"I believe it is time that we take up with courage and clarity a political, social, collective and ideological offensive across the world — a real offensive that permits us to move progressively, over the next years, the next decades, leaving behind the perverse, destructive, destroyer, capitalist model and go forward in constructing the socialist model to avoid barbarism and beyond that the annihilation of life on this planet."
--Hugo Chavez, at the 16th World Festival of Youth and Students, held in Caracas on August 8-15, 2005
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/640/640p16.htm
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From The Washington Times, January 12, 2009
Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution
by Stephen Dinan
Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.
By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.
lots more...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/
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Here's a link to an image of a Google cache of the Socialist International's webpage that originally included Obama's "Climate Czar" Carol Browner.
http://24ahead.com/images/si-csws-cache-as-of-011009.jpg
Who needs the Mythbusters when we have FR to bust myths like Bill Nye the Obama Guy?
Not even close. Counting water vapor (which is frankly ridiculous) gets Pinatubo up to 491Mt. Mankind emits about 20,000 Mt of water vapor a year. Again, comparing water vapor is ridiculous because it is short lived. The realistic comparison is CO2 and Pinatubo loses big: 42Mt versus 7000 Mt for manmade.
You got a source? There are articles here that say Mt Pinatubo released more Greenhouse gas than the industrial revolution.
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