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1 posted on 05/08/2012 8:41:35 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping


2 posted on 05/08/2012 8:43:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Two points:

#1: Obama will so screw up the US military activity in Afghanistan that the Taliban will be back in control long before either A/C could be delivered, or on second thought, they will get there just in time to be turned over to the Taliban.

#2: Buy with no fly? WTF, over?

4 posted on 05/08/2012 8:46:48 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Procurement is broken. NRTS it and start over.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/08/2012 8:48:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Let buy the one from the company that has only built two of their models, hasn’t tested them in combat, and is currently bankrupt!


6 posted on 05/08/2012 9:00:09 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
You should know that many years ago, I was employed by Beech Aircraft. It was still a family business back then, a great place to work and learn a trade that kept me fed for 30 years.

You should also know that Hawker Beechcraft filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection three days ago. They were counting on this contract and it didn't come through.

That said, I still wouldn't give either company (Beech or Embrauer) a nickel to build planes for the Taliban Air Force.

7 posted on 05/08/2012 9:00:39 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why don’t they just find a plant to redo the P 51 Mustang? Update the cockpit with modern avionics. Place a sensors pod where the drop tank would be, and configure thw plane to carry smart ordnance and put 4 50 cal in the wings.


9 posted on 05/08/2012 9:42:17 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: sukhoi-30mki

US taxpayers buying Afghans an air force? WTF? Throw Karzai out of a C-130 from 30,000 feet after giving him a superman cape. That’s an Afghan air force I can live with.


11 posted on 05/08/2012 10:18:45 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This whole thing is asinine. The requirement was for an off-the-shelf COIN aircraft, and the only qualifying aircraft was the one the USAF originally selected, the Super Tucano. The AT-6 is an experimental derivative of the T-6 Texan II, so as such is not “off-the-shelf.”
17 posted on 05/09/2012 4:07:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A plane that one can use off the shelf technology for, really WW II technology except for perhaps avonics, is 15 months behind schedule? What a screw up. How hard would of it had been to refurbish IL-2 Sturmovik’s?


19 posted on 05/09/2012 6:59:41 AM PDT by C19fan
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