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Conservative-GOP marriage over?
politico ^ | Monday May 7, 2012 | Craig Shirley

Posted on 05/07/2012 8:59:54 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

It should come as no surprise that the Republican National Committee has been “covertly” supporting Mitt Romney throughout the primaries, as POLITICO recently “revealed.” It was the worst-kept secret in Washington

Reagan, the über outsider, called for a “new Republican Party” back in 1977. Reagan wanted the GOP to shed its country club, corporate boardroom image and become a genuine conservative movement, focused on the individual.

Reagan’s words threatened the status quo of the scions and heiresses of the country club and corporate boardroom set. The former California governor and his conservative followers were never accepted by these insiders

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The Republicans’ desire for power is usually stronger than any desire for restraint by conservatism. It always seems to leave conservatives disappointed.

Many conservatives have, in fact, decided that their beliefs have become permanently inconsistent with Republicanism. This may be more apparent in 2012 than ever before. No offense to Romney, but he is the perfect nominee for the Republican Party in 2012 because he — like the GOP — has adopted a variety of positions over the years in order to acquire power. The Etch A Sketch comment was stunningly accurate.

The “lesser of two evils” argument is now settling over the landscape. Perhaps. The “conservatives have no place else to go” storyline is being pushed. Maybe.

On the other hand, some conservatives now view this election as a clear Hobson’s Choice or possibly a Morton’s Fork. One choice is bad or nothing; the other between two bad options.

Conservatives should be clear-eyed, though. The job of the Republican Party is to deceive conservatives into handing over their support. This does not mean that conservatives can’t arrive at the conclusion that this choice is between the lesser of two evils.

But they should prepare to be disappointed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Houghton M.; BlackElk

“By 2016 SCOTUS will be packed with Obama stooges for the next 20 years.”

And they will declare presidential term limits racist and make Obama president-for-life.


121 posted on 05/08/2012 6:57:01 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: BlackElk

“Problem is that Robozombie has never dione ANYTHING but LIE in politics for his whole miserable elitist life. “

Unlike many life-long politicians, Romney has spent most of his life in the private sector, and in a sector where results count a lot more than words. The bottom line cant lie - you either succeed or dont.

As such, the above statement could be more accurately applied to the many politicians who HAVE been in politics their whole lives.


122 posted on 05/08/2012 7:03:38 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Bigtigermike

This has happened before. The GOP will split, as will the DNC. A shotgun marriage doesn’t work well.


123 posted on 05/08/2012 7:20:20 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: nathanbedford; onyx
Newt, Santorum, Perry are not ignorant men. They were unable to make the primary in Virginia; the Fla primary was moved UP in violation of RNC rules (they waived 50% of their delegates as a penalty) and changed to winner take all. That is only 2 examples.
You will NEVER convince me the RNC was not onboard with Romney and the maneuvering of the process from day one.
As for the conservatives not sending a message to the RNC..once again I refer to the 2010 elections; heck the 2008 presidential election (McCain); Indiana, Utah.
124 posted on 05/08/2012 7:31:57 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: zeugma

Nonsense.

In the month of September, Sarah Palin realized just how deep the fix was in for Romney. The millions Mitt spent to destroy Newt twice after Gingrich had worked his way to the top of the polls would have been spent against her had she jumped into the race. With mostly small donors, she would not have been able to fight off those “scorched earth” attacks.

She also realized that the Republican Media (NRO, Human Events, The American Spectator, Townhall, Hot Air, etc.) would have gleefully piled on with the Mittwits against her. She knew Mitt would have the endorsements of the elected GOP-e pols, including many she had endorsed in 2010, including Ayotte, Haley and others.

With both the Democrats and Republicans against her, she would not have stood a chance, and she would have suffered much the same fate as Newt. She would have sacrificed any chance she might have had for a political future if she had run in 2012.

By staying out, she remains a threat for 2016 if Mitt loses, which is very likely to happen. Sarah is smarter than your average bear.


125 posted on 05/08/2012 7:32:16 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("The lesser of two evils is, by definition, evil." - Josh Painter)
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To: nathanbedford

A voice of reason, and a welcome break from the whining ...


126 posted on 05/08/2012 8:40:45 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Houghton M.

There needs to be a conservative candidate worth voting for....this time around it was trying to get behind the candidate that sucked the least. Hard to unite around one candidate if they are all so mediocre at best.


127 posted on 05/08/2012 8:42:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: nathanbedford
You sir are exactly correct. The crybabies who whine about the progressive arm of the GOP would rather sit on the sidelines and complain then go out and WORK at making a difference. ANYBODY who sits on their hands and allow this TRAITOR another term are no better then he. We either hang together or we hang separately.
128 posted on 05/08/2012 8:45:43 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: BlackElk

Agreed.

It is like those who like to pressure you to buy a certain brand because it is NOT another brand. You don’t have to buy the product.


129 posted on 05/08/2012 8:47:44 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: nathanbedford
Next time, the Republicans would be well advised to raise money, disband their circular firing squad, and support an electable conservative.

Why would they want to do that? As long as what they've been doing keeps working, they're going to keep right on doing it. We've been holding our nose and voting for the RINO, and warning them about "next time" for how long now?

130 posted on 05/08/2012 8:54:35 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Dawgreg

Since I live in a state whose electoral votes will surely go to whoever the GOP nominee is, I thinking of supporting this party instead:

http://constitutionparty.com/


131 posted on 05/08/2012 9:16:44 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Bigtigermike

This is news? 1984 was the last year that the GOP had a candidate that conservatives could get excited about. GHWB lost because of Perot, Dole was a hideous candidate, GWB had his strengths but was a big spender, and McCain was Dole without the charisma. Now we have Romney.I will not give the RNC a penny. I am a fiscal and social conservative, so I guess that makes me a RINO! I am especially nauseated by their spineless refusal to defend candidates, and to not go after liberals.


132 posted on 05/08/2012 9:20:36 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Freestate316

GHWB lost because of GHWB.


133 posted on 05/08/2012 9:21:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dfwgator

Yah, I guess “read my lips, no new taxes,” didn’t help.


134 posted on 05/08/2012 9:23:46 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: ReformationFan

Good idea.....something to think about. :)


135 posted on 05/08/2012 9:28:03 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Bigtigermike
The questions are these as a conservative.

1. Why did Mitt Romney win the primary?
2. What are the rules of the game>
3. What can we do in the future?
4. Is it feasible?
5. If yes, how? If no, why not?

6. Do we have the patience necessary to succeed?

A1 - He got more votes. That was due to good campaign organization by Mitt, and flawed opponents who either dropped early or self-destructed due to blunders or inexperience. Other potential winners did not run.

A2 - Know them. Study them. We know that many party apparatuses supported Mitt. How does one get appointed to a party apparatus? It's our party, too. In Michigan, precinct delegates elect county party leadership, and state delegates that pick their leadership. Most of those positions are also unfilled.

A3. We can build our party. We have a two feasible party system. There is not the structure, nor loyal electorate for other parties besides the two party system. What we need to do is become active in the party and take it over, long term. It doesn't get done in one election or two elections.

A4. Yes

A5. It's feasible through primaries and party leadership from the ground up. That's how Marco Rubio took out Charlie Crist. Counties and Districts.

A6. Right now. No. Most mainstream party activists support those who put in the work with the party. That's how most conservatives I know get in. They go to most, if not all the meetings, and also work on certain things. It takes years.

136 posted on 05/08/2012 9:58:16 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: nathanbedford
Next time, the Republicans would be well advised to raise money, disband their circular firing squad, and support an electable conservative.

Yep. Look at all the attacks here on Perry, "Saint Rick", Newt, Cain, Bachmann, etc. Before Palin decided not to run, a lot of groupies here were trying to clear the field for her, assuming she was running.

137 posted on 05/08/2012 10:03:52 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: nathanbedford

Amen to that post. This is not the election to show disgust with the party by totally destroying the Republic. Vote as conservatively as possible in all state and local contests. And then,...And then...Yes I will vote for Romney. Romney will be entertaining the thought of being re-elected in 4 years, so he can’t alienate everyone. Obama,on the other hand will have no such constraints. If you folks thought Zero was bad this time around, let him have 4 more years and the USA will be totally unrecognizable. If you look at state election results, the conservative movement HAS made great headway in the last few years. We are winning, just not all in one election. However, the conservative movement WILL suffer a serious setback if Zero is re-elected


138 posted on 05/08/2012 10:50:30 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Reagan’s words threatened the status quo of the scions and heiresses of the country club and corporate boardroom set. The former California governor and his conservative followers were never accepted by these insiders

We need to stay in the GOP, and kick the RINOs out. we started it in 2010 with the deefeat of Bennett...now we can defeat Lugar today. and tell the GOPe that we are taking over.

3rd party will hand the USA over to the American Zombie Party (aka Dems). The Republicans, without us, will help the AZP rip up the constitution!!

139 posted on 05/08/2012 10:52:34 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: jimpick
I will support any 3rd party conservative. Screw the GOP. We have irreconcilable differences. The GOP is just out for power and not the people or the republic.

I'l go for Romney, because voting 3rd party is a vote for the MARXIST. We need to unite behind Romney and defeat OBUMMER.

if we are going to give up, the constitution will be trampled on by OBUMMER!!

140 posted on 05/08/2012 10:59:33 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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