Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Would-Be Copper Thief ‘Extremely Grave’ After He’s Shocked And Catches On Fire
losangeles.cbslocal.com ^ | May 5, 2012

Posted on 05/07/2012 9:33:00 AM PDT by grundle

SAN BERNARDINO (CBS) — A would-be copper thief was gravely injured early Saturday morning when he attempted to steal copper wiring from a live Edison vault, according to authorities.

Witnesses told CBS2 and KCAL9 reporter Melissa Maynarich that the man could be heard screaming in agony.

Jeff Grammatico was across the street from the substation when he said, “I heard a boom.” He added, “It made me jump from one side of the room to the other.”

He ran to the fence and saw a man burning alive. “It was scary. I was trying to cut the gate to get in. It was horrifying to watch him burn.”

Grammatico says he ran back to his home to get a fire extinguisher while another passerby called 911. “He kept standing and screaming, screaming, screaming. And I couldn’t get in. I had a fire extinguisher. But he wouldn’t come over. But he started to roll.”

Officials say the suspect is “extremely grave” and that it’s likely he was burned by 33,000 volts of electricity.

The incident occurred on the corner of Rialto and Stoddard about 2 a.m.

Southern California Edison said about 14,000 customers lost power. Service was fully restored by Saturday afternoon.

The man is described as a man in his 20s. Police have not released the man’s name. Witnesses said he was so badly burned there was no way for him to be identified. JR Velasquez said it was hard to witness the horror of the man burning. “It was something I really never seen n my life. Never happened to any animal or anybody.”

The man has not yet been charged with a crime. Police are trying to locate his family.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: darwin; stupidshouldhurt; zot
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 last
To: grundle

Resist he much?


81 posted on 05/07/2012 11:55:16 AM PDT by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grundle

82 posted on 05/07/2012 12:17:14 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grundle

What would REALLY be a bummer is if he got lit up by a copper coated steel wire!

Most likely it was real copper.


83 posted on 05/07/2012 12:42:37 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grundle
CALIFORNIA CROOK COOKED IN COPPER CABLE CAPER
84 posted on 05/07/2012 12:51:22 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Charles Henrickson

LOL!


85 posted on 05/07/2012 12:52:57 PM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: grundle
Q: Yo dog, you got dat copper?

A: Fo' Shizzle!

86 posted on 05/07/2012 1:03:25 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Guy stole a bunch of manhole covers with “City of Fort Worth” cast into them and tried to scrap them... Maybe they wouldn’t notice.

He got to try and explain that one to a judge.


87 posted on 05/07/2012 1:12:57 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: grundle

Ohm my God! Talk about shuffling off this mortal coil!


88 posted on 05/07/2012 1:22:05 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: southernnorthcarolina

CALIFORNIA CROOK COOKED IN COPPER CABLE CAPER

Hmmm

Condolences...


89 posted on 05/07/2012 3:56:44 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are next to the potatoes!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: martin_fierro; Charles Henrickson; grundle
SAN BERNARDINO

Sunburned, he no....

90 posted on 05/07/2012 3:57:41 PM PDT by mikrofon (He shoulda gone to Cupertino...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: grundle
One of my kids lives in a nice house in New Orleans. They have come home two times in the last few years to find water pouring their driveway and their copper pipes missing from underneath the house. After the second incident, they put up concrete blocks and cemented them in place around the bottom of the house, electrified the plumbing lines and got a new fence that locks and can only be opened from one of the remotes that opens the gate.

It's hard to feel much sympathy for people like this guy who prey upon others.

91 posted on 05/07/2012 4:43:41 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: China Clipper

Okay, who’s got the link to Carson’s copper clapper caper video? :-)


92 posted on 05/07/2012 7:20:14 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (O's new cookbook: "101 Ways To Wok Your Dog")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: xp38
It ain't the volts it's the amps.

Precisely. I've been hit by 30,000 volts. Common in old TV sets, especially in the cool red wire thingy that plugs into the side of the tube.

#: )

Nevertheless I would imagine there was considerable amperage involved.

Of that we can be sure. However both the general public and media 'reporters' are so narrowly educated that it is just easier to boil things down to those with the highest 'shock' value (see, I can pun), in order to sell laundry detergent.

30,000 Volts is more 'exciting' than 100 amps.

93 posted on 05/08/2012 9:34:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Steely Tom
It's hard to imagine how he could have been alive more than a few milliseconds though.

Dead? Looks alive to me.


94 posted on 05/08/2012 9:48:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: grundle

He was transformed by his resistance, and will probably look revolting.


95 posted on 05/08/2012 2:43:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steely Tom
I was a master electrician a long time ago, and be assured that most of the current did not travel through his body or there would be nothing more of him than tiny pieces of flesh.

More likely, he was using bolt cutters to cut the wire and the cutters caused a short to the electrical cabinet which caused the explosion.

96 posted on 05/08/2012 3:02:09 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: grundle

I don’t understand how they put him in a hospital. Isn’t smoking prohibited?


97 posted on 05/08/2012 3:35:17 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CharacterCounts
I was a master electrician a long time ago, and be assured that most of the current did not travel through his body or there would be nothing more of him than tiny pieces of flesh.

More likely, he was using bolt cutters to cut the wire and the cutters caused a short to the electrical cabinet which caused the explosion.

I understand your reasoning here, and agree with your practical insight. However, the witness report in this case was that the man was actually on fire. If we take that report at face value, it would tend to imply that the victim got a whole lot of resistive heating in a real big hurry.

I was thinking about what you said. If he severed the line with a bolt cutter, at 33kV, there'd be a hell of an arc when that line parted. In fact, if the bolt cutter had metal handles, it would arc to his hand or wrist as soon as the blades got even partially through the insulation on the cable. 33kV can jump at least two or three inches through dry air; considerably farther if there's dirt, sharp points, etc.

So they guy draws an arc right through the handle of the cutter. Then it arcs off some other part of his body to the cabinet (as you suggest) or to some grounded conduit. Then he's getting the full heating power of that current.

You may have seen the YouTube video of a man electrocuted on top of an electric passenger train (go to Google/YouTube and type in train electrocution India if you haven't). His entire body turns into an arc; there is an explosive sound like a bomb going off. He falls down dead and his body is smoking but intact.

I'm not an expert on electric rail lines in India, but I do know that the electric transport system in Philadelphia runs (or at least used to run) at 11.5 kV. If we assume that was the case in the India electrocution, the 33kV electrocution describe in the story would have been approximately 10 times as violent to a first approximation.

98 posted on 05/09/2012 8:14:37 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson