Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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“Reid has stopped the house cold. We need a conservative (notice I didnt say republican) congress or we are, truly, doomed.”
Reid + Obama ... we need to get rid of both of them to fix the problem.
I don’t think Boehner, McConnell and Obama will work out so great for us.
“Santorum lost because Romney said he spent too much and was for earmarks.
Newt lost because Romney pointed out that he was against capitalism and was associated with Freddie Mac.
Perry lost because Romney pointed out that he was in favor of tuition for illegals.
Moral of the story is we cant beat RINOs by being more liberal.”
the moral of the story is that political campaigns are ugly, and we shouldnt fall for the ol’ song-and-dance attacks and buy into attacks on the more conservative candidates.
The other moral is that by rejecting flawed yet-more-conservative guys we end up with the LEAST conservative candidate.
We would repeat that mistake by rejecting Romney and letting Obama get relected
You are exactly right IMHO. I think we are going to pay a heavy price for removing God from our culture. Jefferson trembled at the though that God was just.
Strange how that works. When we have a really weak opponent there always seems to be a "Moderate Republican" that arises to save us. Almost like there is a plan.
They have already Fixed it, that is why we keep moving left.
—I dont think Boehner, McConnell and Obama will work out so great for us.—
Yep. That is basically what I am saying.
The one feature that I believe separates the conservative from the libertarian or any other similar and perhaps allied ideology is the implied belief in Original Sin. Being a Baptist Anglican, we don't use that term--we just behave as if it exists.
Man is born sinful and that's just what it is. Libertarians believe in perfectibility, as do liberals. That leads them to rage and despair and defeat.
When I compare Romney to Palin or West, (Palin/West was my dream team) I feel crushed with disappointment. However, when I compare him to Obama common sense checks in. He's deeply flawed, but not filled with malevolence--hate for America and Americans. That's the clincher. All these progressives hate America.
Ron Paul is the most pro life candidate and a tea party candidate and still in the race and the only way to prevent Obama or Romney from further destroying America. If you don’t want a socialist big govt big spender pro abortion in the WH support Ron Paul. How is it you miss that Jim?
Thank you , seeing your post gives me hope that there are conservatives here that can see thru the lies spread about Paul and there is still a chance to win this as opposed to handing the presidency to a socialist again.
Unfortunately, the “declared truce” didn’t halt all of the hostilities...
Go back and re-read my post. Never said declared, said proposed. It’s up to the adults who post here to comply.
“Eating our own because we dont have the POTUS nominee we want is simply self-defeating.”
There is a difference between not getting the POTUS nominee we want and getting one who is on the other side. Romney is a progressive.
I’ll vote for him and then go home and take a shower.
Cherry-picking one sentence and ignoring the context in which it appeared is a defective way to argue.
In my #61, I dismissed Romney as irrelevant to the substance of the election. It is ‘obvious’, in context, that ‘eating our own’ had NOTHING whatever to do with the ol’ Etch-a-sketcher. It DID have EVERYTHING to do with the constant internecine struggles JimR was addressing.
He was advocating banishing the ol’ Circular Firing Squad formation. He was calling on the community to focus constructively on the ‘down-ballot’ because sitting out the whole election because the POTUS nominee was terminally defective is self-defeating.
I don’t care if Mittens is a Progressive, a Jehovah’s Witness or a nudist. He is ‘irrelevant’. The down-ballot, on the other hand, is ABSOLUTELY relevant.
Since I am constructing my vote to ‘oppose’ Iman Hussein and SUPPORT Conservatism and Constitutionalist Candidates, to the exclusion of all others, I don’t have to worry about running home to shower after voting.
One Man’s Opinion
No way I can support Etch a Sketch and I’ll be happy to campaign against him. You can be a conservative or you can support Etch a Sketch. Not both.
Ther eis NO evidence to suggest that he'll bend to our pressure.
There is NO evidence to suggest that he'll bend to our pressure.
With you (almost)entirely. I think it is a terrific idea to run with everyone on board ( like your slate except for Tim Pawlenty, too much of a wienie for me)and the IN YOUR FACE thing is what we need.
Megadittos to everything you said.
“How about this for starters: http://constitution.hillsdale.edu/
Hillsdale College constitution 101”
If I had a kid today who was getting ready for college, he or she would HAVE to go to Hillsdale. Its a GREAT institution and it STAYED that way by REFUSING Federal moneys and the strings the Washington elites attach to TAXPAYER money.
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