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Court balance in play this election
Orange County Register ^ | April 27, 2012 | Brian Calle

Posted on 04/29/2012 6:40:28 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

The stakes in this year's election are higher than normal because the next president may have the unusual opportunity to impact the ideological direction of the Supreme Court, untypical of any one presidential term.

During the next presidential term, starting in January 2013, of the nine Supreme Court justices, "three of the justices will be in their 80s," notes Clint Bolick, author of the new book, "Two-Fer: Electing a President and a Supreme Court."

"[W]hoever is elected in November may have the rare chance to reinforce or alter the courts balance," he said.

And with Supreme Court rulings like Citizens United in 2010 – and perhaps the upcoming decisions on Obamacare and the federal government's lawsuit against Arizona's illegal-immigration law – hinging on the opinion of a single justice and setting longstanding precedents, the court's balance ought to be top of mind for voters this year.

There is no guarantee when a justice will retire nor can they be forced to do so. Supreme Court justices are constitutionally guaranteed a life term and can serve for as long as they wish to.

Of those justices reaching their eighties in the next presidential term, two of the three are regarded as being on the conservative side of the court. Among the liberals, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg turns 80 in 2013. Conservative Antonin Scalia, 76, turns 80 in 2016. Anthony Kennedy, often portrayed as the swing vote on the typically divided court, turns 77 this summer and 80 in 2015.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
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To: Clintonfatigued

Huge!


61 posted on 04/29/2012 9:24:22 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The stench of Earth Pimp-age is permeating over the internet...)
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To: JediJones
Thanks for your thoughtful response.

I guess it all depends on how you perceive Romney - as either a doctrinaire Liberal or as a previous poster noted "an ambitious weather vane". I see the weather vane. Everything is negotiable with this guy.

And if you want to argue strategy, gridlocking Obama with a Republican Congress for 4 years...

This thread is about SC nominees. How does your strategy help this?

62 posted on 04/29/2012 9:43:29 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

The Democrats were able to block Bork, so it is possible for the opposition to sink a nominee. We were about 5 votes away from filibustering Kagan, 8 for Sotomayor, but couldn’t block Kagan because of the RINOs like Lugar, Graham, Snowe, Collins, etc.

There is also the possibility to pass laws which invalidate some Supreme Court rulings. Of course Constitutionally-based ones would require passing an amendment, but I’m not too sure how much liberal policy could be defended on a constitutional basis, since those arguments often come down in favor of more free speech.

But it’s true that the ability to appoint judges at all levels would be one of Obama’s powers that would be more difficult to hold in check.


63 posted on 04/29/2012 9:50:28 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Court balance?

Both appoint liberal judges.


64 posted on 04/29/2012 10:31:45 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Harry Reid would do everything he can to make it happen. It’s not like the GOP has a spine.


65 posted on 04/29/2012 10:35:05 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JediJones
But it’s true that the ability to appoint judges at all levels would be one of Obama’s powers that would be more difficult to hold in check.

If there wasn't going to be such a high number of SC replacements or if Obama wasn't so radical your strategy would have a lot of merit.

66 posted on 04/29/2012 1:06:26 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: JediJones
Republicans might be able to block one really-horrible Obama selection but then he would put up someone just as bad. If the person was a minority, it's less likely the Republicans will put up much of a fight. Remember Clinton's effort to pick an Attorney General--it took three tries but he got the kind of person he wanted (possibly worse than the two who were shot down).

I don't trust Romney on judges, but he could be pressured, especially in his first term if he hopes to get any conservative support for re-election. Like Mae West said to Cary Grant, "You can be had." We would have leverage with Romney, but none with Obama.

67 posted on 04/29/2012 3:01:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jiggyboy

That would be possible if the rats had 60 Senators, but they don’t.


68 posted on 04/29/2012 11:45:55 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican

It’s the only issue more important than the economy. But only us partisans focus on it. The sheeple masses are mostly clueless.


69 posted on 04/29/2012 11:46:40 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Last Dakotan

>All you Romney bashers on FR need to put on your big boy pants and consider what a Eric Holder nomination to the Supreme Court would mean.

Well, obviously fun for everyone.
And by ‘fun’ I don’t mean CWII, because the Kelo decision should have done *that*; it was, after all, a decision saying that the government can justify taking your property with nothing more than imagining (projecting) that it would generate some sort of taxable income.


70 posted on 04/30/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EternalVigilance

>Frankly, at this point in history, all the Romney Republican fear-mongering about judges does is disgust and anger me.

You and me both.
I’d vote for Obama sooner than Romney because at least Obama would be more polarizing and uniting his opponents; though, to be honest, given how the GOP has acted I don’t think there’s much hope (for good governance) in either of the parties.


71 posted on 04/30/2012 8:47:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EternalVigilance

>Name one conservative Mitt Romney named to the courts in Massachusetts.

They’re all conservative, in that they “keep” things the way they are.
(This is why I hate precedent; it is nothing less than judges playing a game of ‘telephone’ with the jurisprudence... and then excusing themselves from any responsibility by saying “it was already that way.”)


72 posted on 04/30/2012 8:49:53 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Republic Rocker

>that will become a regret as our children and grandchild for generations get ruled on by Obama lasting court appointees.

That’s ridiculous on its face:
A SC Justice can be removed from office by 1) impeachment, & 2) committing a felony (Good behavior clause), and 3) assassination (why do you think they have US Marshall protection?).
The felony one would be absurdly easy to get them on; consider the Kelo decision wherein the court justified the use of a *projection* as satisfying the “public use” requirements of the 5th Amendment. US Code, Title 18, part 1, Sec 242 says:

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;
[...]
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

This is a felony offense; and given that in order to have a majority opinion the USSC has to have more than one person concurring so the “two or more” is satisfied. Furthermore, using their own decision as “proof” of the “constitutionality” of the ruling would be invalid; for one thing it presupposes that the USSC is greater than the Constitution, having the authority to alter it at will... for another it is the very act in question.


73 posted on 04/30/2012 9:04:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: PeteB570

>I’ll hold my nose and vote for Ron Paul.

Question: Why would you have to hold your nose?


74 posted on 04/30/2012 9:11:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EGPWS
After all, where is the conservative history behind Romney to guarantee this?

There isn't any.

75 posted on 04/30/2012 9:13:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Last Dakotan
All you Romney bashers on FR need to put on your big boy pants and consider what a Eric Holder nomination to the Supreme Court would mean.

He'd do less damage to the Constitution than would another Souter.

There may well come a time when there are five lawless judges on the Court. When that time comes, the only hope for the Republic will be for a significant portion of the populace to realize that although what the Constitution says, and what the Supreme Court says, will be one and the same when the court is doing its duty, there is nothing in the Supreme Law of the Land which gives the Supreme Court any authority to issue decisions contrary to it, much less anything which says such decisions should be regarded as superior to the Constitution.

The more overtly political the Court's leftist judges are, the more accepting people will be of the notion that an overt willingness on the part of some of the justices to ignore the Constitution does not change the Supreme Law of the Land. If in some case five judges openly ignore the Constitution, there may not be any remedy for the actual parties to that case, but nor is there any basis for declaring that the Constitution means the things claimed by judges who are overtly disregarding it.

76 posted on 05/02/2012 4:55:05 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: supercat
Romney hasn't won the Conservative vote yet - and he knows he needs it.

I don't trust him either and I'd make him give up a short list of potential nominees.

77 posted on 05/03/2012 5:19:43 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
All you Romney bashers on FR need to put on your big boy pants and consider what a Eric Holder nomination to the Supreme Court would mean.

Nice try, but the Republicans Congress would NEVER let that happen. Unlike the Czars, the SCOTUS nominees must undergo a vetting process in the Senate.

Everyone (including myself) who has decided not to vote for Mitt will still vote down-ticket-Republican. Obama WILL be a lame-duck president!

Personally I see it as safer than a Republican Congress that votes in favor of Romney bills for the sake of party unity. (see TARP, No Child, etc...)

Once again... FEAR MONGERING seems the only way you establishment people operate.
78 posted on 05/03/2012 12:40:05 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: Last Dakotan
Given that Romney has been political chameleon his whole career were we can have an effect is the background he plays against. VP, platform, Cabinet - even the House and Senate are all in play and ripe for conservative agitation.

I'm sorry, are you trying to tell us that Romney will move RIGHT as the campaign progresses???????

Good luck finding a Republican strategist (like Dick Morris) that agrees with that notion...
79 posted on 05/03/2012 12:47:43 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: JediJones
As far as Congress, enough Republicans will simply go along with anything he does because of the "R" after his name. Bush Sr. got taxes raised by getting moderate Republicans and Democrats to agree on a plan when conservatives balked on a plan that would not have raised taxes as high as he did. We just saw the same thing take place on the student loan issue, as the WSJ explained it. The subsidized interest rate will add $6 billion to the deficit next year and risks becoming a permanent, untouchable entitlement. Romney agreed with Obama on it, and the House GOP went along with it because they didn't want to "embarrass" their nominee. This is how RINO presidents work, and why they don't win reelection.

::SLOW CLAP:: Well-said, sir.
80 posted on 05/03/2012 12:52:25 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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