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Judge Wants Definition of 'Natural Born Citizen'
WND ^ | 26 April 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:48:20 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome

U.S. District Judge S. Thomas Anderson of Tennessee said the courts ultimately must define “natural born citizen,” affirming that the “issue of whether President Obama is constitutionally qualified to run for the presidency is certainly substantial.”

“This specific question has been raised in numerous lawsuits filed since President Obama took office,” Anderson wrote in his opinion. “The outcome of the federal question in this case will certainly have an effect on other cases presenting the same issue about whether President Obama meets the constitutional qualifications for the presidency.”

Van Irion, whose Liberty Legal Foundation brought the case, alleges the plan by Tennessee Democrats to register Obama as their nominee for president opens a case, under state law, of negligent misrepresentation and fraud or intentional misrepresentation because of doubts about Obama’s eligibility.

Irion was pleased the court recognized the significance of the claims.

“The court made several very positive statements about our case,” he noted.

He cited Anderson’s statement that the court “finds that the federal question presented, the meaning of the phrase ‘natural born citizen’ as a qualification for the presidency set out in Article II of the Constitution, is important and not trivial.”

“It is clear that the stated federal issue of President Obama’s qualifications for the office are ‘actually disputed and substantial,” the judge said.

Anderson said it also is “clear that there will be a legal dispute over the Constitution’s definition of ‘natural born citizen’ and the Supreme Court’s decision in Minor.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; birthcertificate; elections; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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This seemed kind of significant to me, that we appear here to have an actual judge referring to the matter as a Federal one, and important and deserving of resolution to boot. Kicking the can down the road yes, but this seems like a new twist to me, from a judicial standpoint.

Hedging of bets, perhaps?

1 posted on 04/27/2012 4:48:23 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
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To: LucyT; melancholy; Brown Deer; philman_36; little jeremiah; DiogenesLamp; Smokeyblue; ...
"Anderson said it also is “clear that there will be a legal dispute over the Constitution’s definition of ‘natural born citizen’ and the Supreme Court’s decision in Minor.”

I'd be very, very interested in people's views on the actual judge referring to a dispute vis a vis the constitution and Minor. I was personally taken aback, reading this piece.

2 posted on 04/27/2012 4:54:28 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

If the Supreme Court ever gets this case, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR, will pull the old FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS card and show his DNA tests.


3 posted on 04/27/2012 5:08:58 AM PDT by BilLies (If FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS had a son, he would look just like BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
“A federal judge has determined in a case challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for a state ballot that the meaning of the constitutional phrase “natural born citizen” is “important and not trivial.””

U.S. District Judge S. Thomas Anderson of Tennessee said the courts ultimately must define “natural born citizen,” affirming that the “issue of whether President Obama is constitutionally qualified to run for the presidency is certainly substantial.”

““The court construes these allegations about President Obama … as corroboration of plaintiffs’ main allegation that President Obama is not a natural born citizen or otherwise qualified to be president,” the judge wrote.

Anderson’s opinion included a notation that the U.S. Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett defined “natural born citizen” as “all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens.”

“It is undisputed that the material fact at issue in this case is whether under the circumstances of president Obama’s birth, the president is a ‘natural born citizen,’ a term set out in the United States Constitution and construed under federal law,” he wrote.”

This could be HUGH!
or he could find a horses head in his bed, or a dead fish wrapped in newspaper.

(even spell check thinks “Obama” is illegitimate)

4 posted on 04/27/2012 5:10:31 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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“If the Supreme Court ever gets this case, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR, will pull the old FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS card and show his DNA tests.”

I don't think that would matter, unless FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS is on Obama’s REAL BC. Which of course he is not, since I have seen a copy of Obama’s “Kenyan” BC.

If Obama has to produce to the court, that FAKE BC, he will be guilty of fraud, if not forgery.

It's always “the cover up” that gets them.

5 posted on 04/27/2012 5:16:23 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: BilLies
I think it would have to be his LEGAL father, regardless of the sperm donor. Sperm doesn't have any “foreign influence”.
6 posted on 04/27/2012 5:19:03 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Doesn't make any difference unless FMD was married to Zippo’s mother at the time of his birth.

Zippo’s mother was married to Zippo Sr. at the time of Zippo’s birth.

Zippo Sr. is the father.

7 posted on 04/27/2012 5:19:49 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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Ping................

I'd be very, very interested in people's views on the actual judge referring to a dispute vis a vis the constitution and Minor. I was personally taken aback, reading this piece.

Thank you, Flotsam_Jetsome.

8 posted on 04/27/2012 5:23:52 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

From the headline, thought we were talking about Rubio.

Could we?

Here’s what I hear about him:
He can speak for 45 minutes straight without notes.
He’s a senator. (after Ob. can’t we assume there’s not much to that?)

My son had more stringent criteria getting into ninth grade.


9 posted on 04/27/2012 5:40:44 AM PDT by stanne
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Zippo’s mother was married to Zippo Sr. at the time of Zippo’s birth.

Maybe or maybe not. Even Hussein/Ayers wrote in "Dreams" that the legality of the marriage was iffy and vague.

10 posted on 04/27/2012 5:45:10 AM PDT by bgill
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To: BilLies

:: will pull the old FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS card and show his DNA tests. ::

And opening him to violation of fraud and falsifying documents.


11 posted on 04/27/2012 5:46:47 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: stanne

Now that the RATS have an ineligible prez, the GOP is pushing for theirs. Once the GOP has their ineligible candidate in office, watch for the quick destruction of the Constitution.


12 posted on 04/27/2012 5:47:35 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

The divorce court has ruled his parents were married at the time of his birth, and the marriage produced a child.


13 posted on 04/27/2012 5:54:54 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

I wish this matter would clear up soon. Let’s settle this “anchor” baby problem immediately and with certainty. When I was stationed in London I married an English woman and have two children by her. They were born in South Ruislip AFB, an American Base, which is considered American soil. I received the proper doumentation from the London Embassy stating that they were indeed American citizens. But are they eligible to be President? This discussion carries on and on here at FR most believing one needs two citizen parents to be considered natural born. So far the courts and society believe otherwise. I’m sick and tired of hearing opinions...and that’s what FR offers. I want the policy specifically spelled out by the Supreme Court - and I don’t mean just the Happerset opinion which was really a footnote. I want to know what the 9 judges today have to say.


14 posted on 04/27/2012 5:55:03 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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Maybe Jughead won't be the dem nominee come October.

Either he's a Kenyan, or by some weird, unprovable fluke he is an American named Barry Soetoro, but he perpetrated such a massive fraud in order to get into Harvard including the forging or theft of federal documents (his CT SSN, draft) that he is impeachable for crimes and misdemeanors.

What if Jughead gets tossed and the dems put up a dem like Ben Nelson who is to the right of Mittens? I can see voter's heads exploding now.

15 posted on 04/27/2012 5:57:44 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Hussein wants to delay it getting to the SCOTUS. SCOTUS (Thomas) has already admitted they are “evading” it. They’re all in on the delay. Look for 3 resignations or retirements after the election. That will give Hussein a majority with his 5 total appointments of enemies to America and our Constitution to do his bidding.

Ginsburg is 79
Scalia is 76
Kennedy is 75
Breyer is 73


16 posted on 04/27/2012 5:58:11 AM PDT by bgill
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To: IMR 4350

That’s true and would be upheld in an American court. We are quickly moving away from such courts.


17 posted on 04/27/2012 5:59:47 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
I'd be very, very interested in people's views on the actual judge referring to a dispute vis a vis the constitution and Minor. I was personally taken aback, reading this piece.

I hadn't seen this piece yet. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

18 posted on 04/27/2012 6:04:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: melancholy

“On September 6, 2007, he was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Tennessee vacated by James D. Todd. Anderson was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 10, 2008, and received his commission on May 21, 2008.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Thomas_Anderson

Unfortunately, he was appointed at the end of W’s admin long after W showed severe signs of an invasion of the body snatchers so who knows which side Anderson is on.


19 posted on 04/27/2012 6:05:12 AM PDT by bgill
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To: BilLies
If the Supreme Court ever gets this case, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR, will pull the old FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS card and show his DNA tests.

I hope he does. At this point it is not going to matter whether or not he is a natural born citizen or not, but what seriously needs to happen is that everyone who opposed the asking of the questions needs to have their political teeth knocked out.

Those people who defamed and criticized us "birthers" need to be shown to be utter fools and jackasses. They need to be identified publicly as idiots and they need to accept the responsibility that but for their refusing to support the effort to question this man, he would not have been President, and all the damage he has done would not have happened.

The DAMAGE of the Obama Presidency needs to be laid at the feet of these people who thought they were too brilliant to question his qualifications. They need to be made to face the fact that it is THEIR FAULT that he was not question.

People like Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, Eric Erickson, Allahpundit, Ace, etc. need to know they backed the wrong horse and it caused horrible destruction and it was their hubris which so led them astray.

Shoving what gets discovered down their throats is the only remedial action which can be taken at this point.

20 posted on 04/27/2012 6:15:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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