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Chevy Volt a charged issue
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| April 22,2012
| Darren Samuelsohn
Posted on 04/23/2012 7:25:12 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:25:13 PM PDT
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Hojczyk
To: Hojczyk
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:30:33 PM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: Hojczyk
Coal burner -- intelligent people know electric vehicles don't stop pollution, they just relocate it.
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:35:27 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
To: Hojczyk
If somebody wants to buy a Volt, I could not care less.
Just do it without the $7,500 Taxpayer funded down payment.
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:35:32 PM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
To: Hojczyk
The problem with conservatives is getting them to accept that an electric vehicle is not necessarily a left-wing environmental plot, Lutz said. They see it as a product of the Obama administration and a product of the green movement, and this is the result of government mandates. Its taken on a symbolic role in the right-wing media as everything thats wrong with Big Government, and yet, the vehicle was conceived by private industry. What a kLutz.
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:37:07 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
To: Hojczyk
" Cavuto said, theorizing that spouses will fight over who forgot to charge their Volt overnight."
These sort of B.S. comments do not help. If the Volt isn't charged, it becomes a gasoline-powered car, instead of an EV. You could still drive it to work. The remark could apply to pure Electric Vehicles -- one of which, the Volt is not.
There's plenty to criticize the Volt for -- starting with the subsidies for buyers, the massive subsidies for GM, the high initial cost, and the (likely) high cost of battery replacement. Stick to those (and other valid) criticisms -- leave the bogus comments out.
To: Kickass Conservative
Exactly!
The problem with conservatives is getting them to accept that an electric vehicle is not necessarily a left-wing environmental plot, Lutz said.
It is a plot when it’s my taxpayer money that kept GM afloat, and prevented the onerous union contracts from being tossed out during bankruptcy. Since a healthy restructuring was not allowed to happen, GM still has problems. I will never buy a GM car, whether a Volt or otherwise. I love the way the left about the GM bailout being a success. They never count the tax breaks as part of the bailouts. Of course, who is able to take advantage of the tax breaks? The super rich who are the only ones who can afford the car, even with the tax break! It shows Obama can embrace the top 1% if they will buy the crappy Volt!
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:44:36 PM PDT
by
winner3000
(ss)
To: Kickass Conservative
...and without the hundreds of thousands per car in other taxpayer subsidies, too.
To: Hojczyk
If the Dolt was even half the car the Prius is, no government subsidies or mandates would be necessary. They would fly off the dealer show rooms. If it was truly conceived, developed and produced “solely” by private industry, it would have been scraped immediately (sort of a hybrid Edsel). They take a mediocre to poor vehicle and load it up with intangible environmentalism, guilt, ignorance, me-ism, etc. and try to pawn it off as being exceptional.
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:46:25 PM PDT
by
RetiredTexasVet
(There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
To: Hojczyk
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:46:59 PM PDT
by
Venturer
To: Hojczyk
Damn right it’s a plot...to coerce someone into buying a $20k dollar 500 lb 1 gallon gas tank....
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:47:40 PM PDT
by
mo
(If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
To: Hojczyk
Damn right it’s a plot...to coerce someone into buying a $20k dollar 500 lb 1 gallon gas tank....
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:47:40 PM PDT
by
mo
(If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
To: Hojczyk
The real story should be the rise in traffic fatalities, a first in 61 years!
Cause, lighter and greener vehicles.
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posted on
04/23/2012 7:51:57 PM PDT
by
Red6
To: winner3000
I read that the average Volt owner has a household income of $170,000, you know, the One Percent. Why does the One Percent need a 47,500 Tax Credit to buy a Motor Vehicle?
Back in February / March, GM advertised a 3 Year, 36,000 Mile Lease for $369 a Month on a 2012 Volt. It was a Zero Down Payment Lease, which would be impossible with any car with a $40,000 MSRP.
The only way it could work was the $7,500 Tax Credit being pocketed by the Dealer. The numbers do not work any other way, even with the cheap Interest Rates we have today.
They should call it the Chevy Scam, not the Chevy Volt.
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posted on
04/23/2012 8:19:06 PM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
To: Kickass Conservative
Oops, make that a $7,500 Tax Credit. Shift key, shift key..
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posted on
04/23/2012 8:21:56 PM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
To: Hojczyk
Well probably see the Volt as a political football through November, and then itll go away,
Is he predicting that Obama won't get reelected and that
the Volt will go away? One can certainly hope that's the case. :=)
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posted on
04/23/2012 8:25:02 PM PDT
by
Bob
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
After the battery runs out, the Volt gets 35 MPG, on PREMIUM Gas, which is .20 cents higher in cost per gallon than Regular Gas.
The Prius costs half what a Volt costs, runs on Regular Gas, seats five instead of the Volt's four and gets 50 MPG.
The numbers tell me everything I need to know.
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posted on
04/23/2012 8:29:25 PM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
To: RetiredTexasVet
I may be wrong. But pre-bailout I believe GM had decided to scrap the volt.
it was post bailout that it was dug out of the scrap heap, given a new coat of paint and pushed in to production.
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posted on
04/23/2012 8:52:17 PM PDT
by
cableguymn
(Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
To: Kickass Conservative
If somebody wants to buy a Volt, I could not care less.
Just do it without the $7,500 Taxpayer funded down payment. Exactly. I am 100% behind their right to choose a Volt. However, I demand a similar right to choose a diesel powered 4x4 F350 crew cab. I don't believe the government (ie. us taxpayers) should subsidize nor penalize either purchase. That's freedom.
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posted on
04/23/2012 9:01:08 PM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
To: Kickass Conservative
After the battery runs out, the Volt gets 35 MPG, on PREMIUM Gas... What a joke. I can match, and often beat that in my standard car that seats 5, running on regular. Sure, Volt owners get a few miles on battery first while I'm burning fuel. But they had to pay for that electricity too. Then they start burning more expensive fuel. It is too late and I'm too tire to run the numbers, but I'll bet you overall my cost per mile is lower than theirs. Oh, and I'm not hauling around the excess weight (think wear and tear on tires, brakes, and better handling) of a big, dangerous battery either.
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posted on
04/23/2012 9:06:57 PM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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