Posted on 04/23/2012 5:08:34 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
Now, however, the Golden State's fastest-growing entity is government and its biggest product is red tape. The first thing that comes to many American minds when you mention California isn't Hollywood or tanned girls on a beach, but Greece. Many progressives in California take that as a compliment since Greeks are ostensibly happier. But as Mr. Kotkin notes, Californians are increasingly pursuing happiness elsewhere.
Nearly four million more people have left the Golden State in the last two decades than have come from other states...
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Freeze ‘em or fry ‘em. Either way works for me.
Heck, even some good California conservatives have pulled up stakes and bailed from Texas because of the heat. Talked to a California Freeper last summer who had had enough, and was heading north.
Being a native Californio myself, I understand, but the positives in Texas far outweigh the negatives, in my opinion. I've learned to deal with the critters and the tougher summers.
This is just so damned wrong. We should be throwing the miscreants OUT of our golden state rather than leaving it to them.
Yep - it’s adapt improvise and overcome. That said, I prefer the cool Pacific Northwest Inland Empire. Got the mountains almost in my backyard, along with 1200’ deep Lake Pendoreille. Be easy to saddle up the horses and disappear into the back country.
They have no RIGHT to demand that people that live in well managed states bail out their bad choices. Best solution I’ve heard is that if we have to do it, we then demote them from State to Territory status, as they will have proved incapable of governing themselves. But the feralgov is incapable of governing too, so where does that leave us?
This is a very accurate article with a huge enigma. The author seems to be against progressivism, yet he is a a transplanted NYC democrat who voted for Brown in the last election. I sense a huge dose of standard liberal hipocracy here. I wonder if he isn’t speaking out both sides of his mouth.
His article is dead on, but the REASON California is like Greece is because of a flood of east coast liberals bringing their socialist utopian dreams to California. 50 years of California colonization by guys like the author are the very reason California is so screwed. He may be against Cap and Trade and some of the more extreme green policies, but he is likely to be quite liberal with everything from save the whales to open borders to EBT for all and college subsidies for illegals.
The author sounds like a pretty good stereotype of the voter base that has destroyed California. He sounds pretty stupid, too.
I mean, how can you know Jerry Brown personally for 35 years, which takes you back to the end of his first terms as governor, and then vote for him for governor in the last election and really think he isn’t still the same old Governor Moonbeam?
Truly, liberals are severely mentally deficient and east coast liberals have been the undoing of the once great state of California, now a one party Democrat oligarchy.
My bet is the author is doing pretty well for himself and doesn’t want to ‘rock the boat’.
To hell with the rest of the state/country.
IOW,he’d fit in at an anti-Walker rally in WI.
Liberals are a pestilence on the country. They settle in, enact all their liberals BS and destroy the land around them. Then decide someone else screwed this up, time to leave and off they go to spread their infection in another state and destroy it in the process.
Liberals should be made to live out their entire lives in the cesspools they create.
I know a lot more conservative Californians who have left, than liberal ones. The liberals like it here with their sushi and compact florescent bulbs. I’m sure plenty are leaving for lower cost living and better work opportunitities. But I can assure you, if only anecdotally, that plenty of conservatives are fleeing as well. Most conservatives I work with are planning to leave for Texas, Idaho, Montana, other places. I’m bound for Virginia or Tennessee myself.
Hey! We don’t want them up here either.
Here is where people are moving to. Click on the LA button for a quick easy start. Tons moving to the south. Also note where the people who are moving to California are coming in from - still a flood from liberal New England states.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/migration-moving-wealthy-interactive-counties-map.html
“Look, the politics here are liberal and terrible.
But do note, as you all complain of how horrible Californians are and how you don’t want us ruining your state, that there are MORE solid conservatives here than in your state.”
I think I commented about this once before, to you, in another thread about a similar subject, some months ago.
It doesn’t matter that there are more “solid conservatives” in California than there are in, say, Montana.
It doesn’t matter how many conservatives are in California.
Not at all.
Because as conservatives you are totally outnumbered by liberals who are never again going to give you a voice in how the state is governed.
The state’s demographics (and the resultant political atmosphere that is a product of those demographics) have toppled over so far to the left, that they can NEVER be “righted” again. Even a total economic collapse, accompanied by civil unrest and/or outright chaos, will not provide a vector by which common sense can be restored to California (aside: if anything, the “solutions” to such a crisis will be even crazier). Conservatism as a force in state government is all-but dead there, and will not be revived.
That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy a life there, with the great weather, etc., etc. Of course you can, provided you have enough reserves stashed away so that the left can’t bleed you completely dry.
What it DOES mean is that as a conservative Californian, by remaining there you are tacitly acceding to being “ruled by the left”. Because whatever political voice you may have (both individually and as a member of a political party) will never be heard over the din of the “majority”. That’s the way it’s going to be, even as the state drives off the cliff just like Thelma and Louise.
But even as they plunge downward towards the crevice at the bottom, the leftist majority is going to be blaming YOU — conservatives, the evil Republicans, the evil and greedy corporations, and the environment destroyers — for the crash that they’re facing!
By the way, I see that reality, too. I’m in Connecticut, which has degenerated from “The Land of Steady Habits” into “Massachusetts south”. I’ll go to the Republican primary tomorrow and vote for Newt, knowing that my vote (except for certain local candidates) is essentially worthless here. It doesn’t matter which national/statewide candidate I support or vote for, he/she is going to lose. If I decide to vote for Romney in November or refuse to support him because he’s an untrustworthy RINO, it STILL doesn’t matter, because he’s going to lose here anyway. For all practical purposes, so long as I remain a resident of this state, my vote doesn’t count for much.
There’s only one way my vote as a conservative individual can ever be made to “count for something” again — and that’s to GET OUT of Connecticut to somewhere where folks like myself may still have a voice that can influence matters. As a recent retiree, I’m in the planning stages of doing that right now.
So.... enjoy life out there in the Golden State. When I was there (early 80’s), it was indeed beautiful.
But that enjoyment must be tempered with the knowledge that it comes with a price.
Like it or not, California conservatives are going to be paying it ‘till the bitter end....
-—Also note where the people who are moving to California are coming in from - still a flood from liberal New England states.-—
But the libs fleeing from CA aren’t heading to NE.
Soooo... we must have the stupidest liberals of them all!
Between 1985-2005, California’s population grew by 10 million people, its Medicaid users grew by 7 million, its tax filers paying income tax grew by 150,000.
Yep, best thing we conservatives in liberal one-party states can do is leave and go save a state from becoming liberal. We can make smaller states solidly conservative by moving in in strong numbers. In the meantime, let the most liberals states get more and more socialist. It doesn’t matter politically. They can only cast their electoral votes once per election.
I agree. Like a plague of locusts.
“Words that do NOT appear in this article:
Hispanic
Illegal
Alien
Immigrants”
And Kotkin used to be a cheerleader for exactly that.
He’ll never admit that massive illegal immigration wrecked California.
There are about 25 of us, hoping to be the only people left here.
I encourage everyone else to leave.
Look into Louisiana, Indiana, Texas and places like Kansas. They are really nice places to live with booming economies.
We loved California where we lived for 35 years. Great friends, great restaurants and great times. Libs have destroyed the state.
While many middle-class families have moved inland, those regions don't have the same allure or amenities as the coast. People might as well move to Nevada or Texas, where housing and everything else is cheaper and there's no income tax.
Absolutely.
If ya don't live on the 25 mile or so wide coastal plain, ya might as well move to Alabama or North Dakota.
To live on the CA coastal plain, ya better have lots of bucks. Otherwise, you'll do much better in places like Tennessee.
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