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Dear President Ronald Wilson Reagan, My Party Left Me Too...
My Own Thoughts
| 04/20/2012
| DoughtyOne
Posted on 04/20/2012 5:55:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
...is there life after the Leftists take over?
We have been operating under the rule of "Lesser of Two Evils" for decades. I have agreed with it. I now stop to ask folks who have been doing the same thing, has our nation grown stronger over those decades? At some point we have to be honest with ourselves. For me, the answer is a clear, "No." I can't answer for you, but there are many people out there who understand exactly where I'm coming from?
Instead of saying people who continue to do this are wrong, I want to give them something to think about. Perhaps it will help them see things a little differently.
What we have been trying hasn't worked. We slide farther left every single year. At some point this has to stop, or we lose the nation we love no matter which party is in power. Take a good look at Mitt Romney. On just one topic alone, I can't vote for him. He's a gun control advocate. Once our guns are gone, they're gone. Bad as that is, it runs much deeper. I don't need to tell you about all of it. You know what I'm talking about. Romney is a blithering idiot when it comes to Conservatism. Some would say he's lying his ass off. It would be hard to argue otherwise.
Carter was universally scorned in 1980. Obama, arguably much worse, isn't. He is still wildly popular with the Left. Has our nation changed? It's my take that it is undeniably worse and in danger of cratering if we don't change direction. And where is the voice of the loyal opposition? That's right... crickets.
For this reason, I simply cannot fall back on the lesser of two evils rule of thumb we have always fallen back on. I say this because IT IS NOT a change of direction. If that hasn't worked, and it clearly hasn't, what reasoned argument is there for doing it again now? Well, to my way of thinking there is no reasoned argument other than the ones that have always been used to advocate for it. And that tactic having failed, the arguments in support of it are unsustainable.
We have tried this and failed. So now we must come up with something different. I, for one, will not sit by and continue play the business as usual game. The Republican party must be made aware that it cannot continue to thumb it's nose at it's core base.
Here's the political spectrum we should be operating under.
1780 [L---------c---------R]
This is the political spectrum that would reveal us to be adhering to our Founding Father's vision and our Founding Documents. This is precisely what the goal of Conservatives should be, to return to this model, and to do it as rapidly as possible. Are we trending back toward that model?
I see something like this.
1980 [L---d---r-c---------R] *
1984 [L--d----r-c---------R] *
1988 [L--d---r--c---------R] *
1992 [L--d---r--c---------R]
1996 [L--d---r--c---------R]
2000 [L--d--r---c---------R] *
2004 [L-d--r----c---------R] *
2008 [Ld--r-----c---------R]
2012 [Ld--r-----c---------R]
The sad fact is, we are trending away from Conservatism. That's why many of us are livid at our nominee this year. AGAIN!!!!
Here is where we are headed folks.
2016 [Ld--r-----c---------R]
2020 [Ld-r------c---------R]
2024 [Ldr-------c---------R]
Does that look enticing?
With the exception of Ronald Reagan in 1980 - 1988, we have been spoon fed our candidates. I'm not saying they spoon fed us the exact candidate, but they did take advantage of trends to make sure what types of candidates would get the nomination. How did the RNC manage that? It allowed it's primaries to be held under conditions that made it possible for Democrats to participate in the Republican nomination process. Did anyone think that was going to give us more Conservative candidates? No, it was a given that we were going to get more Leftists. And more Leftists we got.
The RNC also continually talked up our more Leftist candidates, and made it clear they frowned on our more Conservative ones. Look what took place this year. Rove, Card, other party officials and office holders pushed Romney as hard as they could.
Why would the Republican Party do this? For some time the leadership has been convinced that the nation was heading Left, and it didn't see any possibility of Conservatives being elected. Rather than look at our rich history and notice that our widest victories were realized when we played on our differences with Leftist policy, they decided to adopt more Leftist policy in an attempt to look more appealing. And as this took place, the information dispensed to the public heralding Conservatism ceased. And as the push for Conservatism ceased, the nation moved farther left.
We are now at the point where our Constitution, Capitalism, and other tenets of a sound Constitutional Republic are scorned.
Look at the graph above, and see how that worked out for us. Ronald Reagan was our last president who won with a large margin of victory. Starting with the elder Bush, that margin either disappeared completely or was so razor thin that we had a public perception of a Constitutional crises arise in the aftermath of two elections.
Moving to the Left only assured us that the real Democrats would get support. Why vote for a moderate Leftist when you can vote for the real thing? Did the RNC learn anything from McCain? No. Here we go again with Rove, Card, and the usual suspects trashing better candidates and singing praises to Romney from the get-go. What is our hope for the future, with the business as usual approach? Think of our elections since 1988.
And so we have come to the point in our nation's history, where the Republican party is now willing to promote people who don't give a damn about our sovereignty, our Founding Documents, the sanctity of life, our Second Amendment Rights, and more. At what point do we admit we have full blown Leftists running for office in our party, and refuse to play along any longer?
If Romney were running as a Democrat there isn't even the remotest of chances that you would vote for the man. But now, because he's running against Obama, some entertain the thought. And what happens in 2016, when a member of Hamas runs as a Democrat and The Republican is only as bad as Obama? Do we then vote for the mirror image of him?
Look folks, at some point we have to let the (R) party know, that they have jumped the shark, and we can no longer support what they want us to. You see, if we don't, we'll forever be voting for McCains, Romneys, and worse of their ilk.
If they can get a Leftist like Romney elected, it's effectively the end of Conservatism. No Conservative will ever get the nomination again. Should that be our goal? No.
Why do I say that there will never be another Conservative nominee in the future? Take a look at this election cycle, and realize it only gets worse from here if Romney can get elected without the Conservative vote.
I hope you'll join me in sending a message to the Republican party. That message states these things...
1. I will not vote for Leftists(R)
2. I will no longer support the perpetual movement of this nation to the Left
3. I will no longer remain an active member of the Republican Party as long as it fails to support a return to Constitutional governance
4. If you want my support and the support of other Constitutional Conservatives, you'll talk up people who share our ideals, and criticize those who do not share them
5. You will seek to change rules and tighten up processes thus enabling more Constitutional Conservatives to win elections
6. Failing that, adios...
TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: conservatives; convention; nomination; republicans
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To: hope
Well, hope, you just cut off your nose to spite your face. Now you can’t even influence the little Republican primary voters otherwise headed in the fast lane to the left. We just have to vote for Romney now; isn’t that what Jebbie and Barbara keep telling us?
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
To: Colonel_Flagg
Goldwater told conservatives to “grow up” in 1960 and back Nixon, and GHWB says the same this year for Romney. So we must “group up”, turn liberal and vote Romney. We just must. Goldwater later said Nixon was the “most dishonest man” he ever met, but our predecessors were commited to Nixon too.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:22:02 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
To: Theodore R.
My state allows me to vote in the primaries, so spare me the theatrics.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:23:41 PM PDT
by
hope
To: af_vet_rr
All you say is true, but we just must go with Romney now. Jebbie and his parents demand that we do so. And what Republican can say “no” to a Bush?
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:24:43 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
To: hope
Hope, most states still have closed primaries.
25
posted on
04/20/2012 7:27:10 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
To: DoughtyOne
Have to bookmark for tomorrow..too late to put a coherent contribution just now...but let’s say I’m very much in agreement with most if not all of your thoughts here. Sad mostly.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:27:17 PM PDT
by
SueRae
(Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
To: DoughtyOne
Not voting is a vote for Comrade Barack.
To: Combat_Liberalism
Or maybe it’s a vote for a conservative President in 2016.
28
posted on
04/20/2012 7:30:48 PM PDT
by
JediJones
(From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
To: Theodore R.
I understand. Just for me, I had to do this. It was a personal decision. I don’t recommend everyone do the same. I’m just fed up to here!
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:31:47 PM PDT
by
hope
To: DoughtyOne
I cannot argue with one word of your article. It’s exactly how I feel. I am sick of voting for the lesser of two evils and refuse to do it anymore.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:38:13 PM PDT
by
Nea Wood
(When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
To: DoughtyOne; W. W. SMITH
"is there life after the Leftists take over?" Yeah, but it's mighty oppressive. Truly, today there isn't a 'dimes worth of difference between a Democrat and a Republican.'
But I lay the blame for that squarely on the 98.5 percent of those who call themselves 'conservative' that have never once attended a local district GOP meeting, much less their county or state meetings - or even a local politically active conservative club meeting.
But, more than that, I also blame 'Christians' that attend a church regularly where political issues are rarely if ever mentioned - and active participation in political activism is often openly discouraged.
W. W. SMITH says, "and when they are not prodded into thinking about the difference between parties will end up voting stupid" - which assumes a verifiable and significant difference, which has existed more starkly in the not distant past - but which has faded with the lack of interest in keeping that difference alive at the local district level.
Los Angeles CA has a lot of registered Republican voters, many who claim to be 'very conservative' - but, less than .001 percent of them darken the doors of the many GOP county meetings that take place monthly.
Recently of those 'Republicans' that do show up, near half of them are liberal, and they verge on being able to outvote the slim conservative majority.
Hence, I must take strong exception to much of what is said on this forum by many. They've not fought for conservatism themselves - posting here doesn't cut-the-mustard. They need to get out of the house and go fight for a conservative GOP where they live. If they won't, they haven't a leg to stand on when they complain here.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:40:51 PM PDT
by
Ron C.
To: DoughtyOne
A thoughtful analysis about exactly why this is so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8g5S0z5Y4&feature=relmfu
I greatly miss Milton Friedman the way I missed Ronald Reagan. I pine for men to fill their shoes.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:44:29 PM PDT
by
PapaNew
To: DoughtyOne
Excellent post. I was blasted four years ago when I said we should not vote for the GOP establishment candidate, that it was time to let the GOPe know we would not br taken for granted. I said the same eight years ago. If we had acted then we would not be faced with Romney.
You make a great point about the next election. If Romney wins this one we have Romney as the choice for eight years as.prez.. That is eight years of more shifting to the left and by then all firearms will be illegal. If Romney were a Dem I would not, could not votr for him. As as Republican I cant and wont vote for him either.
My party left me. I will vote for the best third party conservative candidate. Will some conservative please show me where I can send my contribution, lend my support and for whom I can cast a vote.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:51:13 PM PDT
by
gunsequalfreedom
(Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
To: DoughtyOne
Every year you hit a grand slam in the 9th. Good job, and thank you for your effort here.
We must purge the GOP of RINO control, and we must find a candidate who will tell people of American exceptionalism ....spelled FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t know if we can survive another 4 years of these guttersnipes. I will comment more tomorrow. Thanks again for this fine thread!
Warm regards,
SJB
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:53:44 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
To: gunsequalfreedom
” Excellent post. I was blasted four years ago when I said we should not vote for the GOP establishment candidate, that it was time to let the GOPe know we would not br taken for granted”
I didn’t vote for McCain, as I consider him a traitor, and a psycho. So we elected a mentally-ill Marxist con man. Now we have Romney, who is a left wing Republican....happy days.
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posted on
04/20/2012 7:59:38 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
To: DoughtyOne
Another video with Milton Friedman that goes a bit more in depth on this subject of why do people and societies tend to move towards collectivism. He's aged quite a bit here, but he articulates the heart of the issue better than anyone I've heard.
If you don't want to hear all 29 minutes, he hits these points at 4 minutes, 8 minutes, and 10 minutes. At 12:00 in the video, he asserts (1994) that we were more than 50% socialist. We're much worse now. He discusses in a way few do, why this inexorable move to the left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15idnfuyqXs&feature=related
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posted on
04/20/2012 8:05:02 PM PDT
by
PapaNew
To: JRandomFreeper
We have one liberal party with two faces. That is precisely what it has come to. Republican vs Democrat has now become a distinction without a difference.
We conservatives have backed up over and over and over, when the GOP demanded we accept their weakling, liberal candidates, but this time, they're asking us to back through the gates of the gulag while they shut the door.
Sorry, but I'm not going there.
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posted on
04/20/2012 8:15:16 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: DoughtyOne
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posted on
04/20/2012 8:53:32 PM PDT
by
CodeToad
(If it ain't Newt, we're screwt !)
To: DoughtyOne
...is there life after the Leftists take over? Probably not, but implicit in your question is the belief that they have not yet taken over and with this I agree.
The problem is the following IMHO:
A Marxist ideologue is President. His party's leadership is the same. Leadership of the opposing party also include some of the same elements. The Marxists have a compliant media who will never call them out for anything. My seat-of-the-pants guesstimate is that at least 95% of Americans have no idea of what these facts could mean for our safety and liberty. All those of us who do understand can only guess as to the specifics of the future we face if the Marxists maintain control.
I have confidence if Americans understood these facts they would do the right thing such that neo-liberalism / socialism / communism / statism would diminish to the point of political insignificance.
So the cure starts with education. Teach what it is that makes America exceptional. Teach what the founding fathers gave us and why it is so different from any other system of government. Teach what Marxism is and why and how it killed millions. Imagine a classroom with Newt and others as teachers putting this all together for the American people.
In the mean time, we need to build a power base. The question is how. What are the most practical steps to take to achieve this end and to ensure that the Marxists are not able to destroy liberty such that it cannot return without America devolving into a soul and spirit destroying statist atrocity -- a thing that precludes the return of America forever?
These are tough questions and the answers require leaders of a caliber up to those leaders of the first American Revolution. By now, for all I know, that leadership may already have formed or be in the process of so doing. The original founders were pretty coy in the lead up to the beginning of the Revolution. I mean, this ain't beanbag, folks.
I understand the founders always knew it would come to this. As they look down on us now, I wonder what they're thinking?
To: DoughtyOne
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posted on
04/20/2012 9:57:33 PM PDT
by
BufordP
("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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