Posted on 04/19/2012 12:00:17 PM PDT by DBeers
In politics, truth-telling can get you into trouble, even if you stumble upon it by accident. Just ask Rep. Allen West (R-FL).
West is feeling the heat for a pregnant pause he took during a town hall meeting after he was asked "What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card-carrying Marxists or International Socialists?"
"It's a good question," West responded, "I believe there's [sic] about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party who are members of the Communist Party. (Long pause) "They don't actually hide. It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus." The left became unhinged.
Obviously West touched a nerve; before long, members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) drafted their response: "Calling fellow Members of Congress 'Communists' is reminiscent of the days when Joe McCarthy divided Americans with name-calling and modern-day witch hunts that don't advance policies to benefit people's lives..."
The CPC's response is just another sign of the political times we live in. But something about their argument doesn't pass the "smell test."
While there may not be large numbers of card-carrying communists lining the halls of Congress, there is a clear tie between the Democratic Party's Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
It really boils down to marketing. In marketing, many times the same product is given a different name or label in order to increase its appeal to certain groups. Names are sometimes changed due to the product's connection to other products, or the public's association to a prior name.
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Its like a Princess Bride thing...
I’m not sure America even knows what COMMUNISM means..
for sure they don’t know communism “IS” socialism..
and socialism is merely a symptom of democracy..
Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin
The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx
** progressives, socialism, communism, leftism are merely versions of the same thing.. and fascism, nazism are a cousins..
Walk like a duck,talk like a duck, he is a duck.
Go in any French communist cafe and the word communist or progressist is completely interchangeable. This author is progressist, ie. he adheres in their views to the goals of the advanced thinking of communism. It is a term meant to differentiate the communist from the traditionalist who are called names such as “neanderthals” etc...
Actually, I think the preferred term was “reactionary.” In the Soviet Union, that word could get you arrested...
That is why I used to have a tag line like “I’m reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, pro-life, Neanderthal and proud of it!”
I’ll probably switch back to after the election.
“While there may not be large numbers of card-carrying communists lining the halls of Congress, there is a clear tie between the Democratic Party’s Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).”
I’d call them on it. Pretty simple really.
“Hi Mr/Ms. Card Carrying Congressional Communist. You are a member of the US Congress and are a member of CPUSA which is a Communist organization. Why hide???? If you believe your policies and politics is what this nation needs to move forward, come out and tell us how. The fact that you are hiding your true political views from your constituency should tell them everything they need to know to throw your commie ass out of congress.”
And I would make this a NATIONAL Campaign ad.
I’d say Progressivism is the old Communism in its new guise.
If Americans could work up enough outrage about Communists, it might work. But I don’t think they can. They been getting desensitized for a loooooong time, now. Calling someone a Nazi is sometimes effective. Calling them a Communist won’t work; not even if they have a membership card.
“While there may not be large numbers of card-carrying communists lining the halls of Congress, there is a clear tie between the Democratic Party’s Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).”
I’d call them on it. Pretty simple really.
“Hi Mr/Ms. Card Carrying Congressional Communist. You are a member of the US Congress and are a member of CPUSA which is a Communist organization. Why hide???? If you believe your policies and politics is what this nation needs to move forward, come out and tell us how. The fact that you are hiding your true political views from your constituency should tell them everything they need to know to throw your commie ass out of congress.”
And I would make this a NATIONAL Campaign ad.
It would work. Just have to take a different approach. I wouldn’t condemn it. I would praise them for their ideology and encourage them to tell us more how we should be like the Soviets.
And when they start shouting that they are being called Communists, I would step back and ask why is that such a bad thing if they are in fact one.
I wouldn’t let them play that victimhood card. This is what you are, you carry the card, why hide it? Because if you are hiding what you are, then we have an issue.
So far there have been mumblings like Obama sans the teleprompter, or just plain *crickets* or anger because they have no idea or there is no difference. This is an eduacational moment. The may NOT be card carrying communists but there is little to no difference as Lt Colonel and congrssman has stated, basically, there is no difference, just PC words as compared to the true work, progressives are promoting COMMUNISM in every way,in every form, in every street corned ani American sign.
I wish there was enough $$ in the coffers in FReeperville because I've have a ball making videos and interviewing these folks. I should use all them journalism classes someday.
Ya know, producing videos like that is a VERY good idea. Maybe, you could approach the Brietbart and or Glenn Beck organizations with a sample and float the idea -maybe they would finance and assist in the effort?
There’s no such thing as “New Communism” — what’s called Progressivism now is the tired same old communism. Progressivism of the late19th and early 20th centuries wasn’t communism. After his phony victory in 1912 (thanks TR) Wilson jailed his socialist opponent Eugene V. Debs to prevent his own loss of the NY state vote in 1916.
“He Kept Us Out of War” — until that election was over.
Thanks century.
No. It’s the same as the old communism.
Judging from the embrace of Romney....
Progressivism is also the new conservatism (ugh)
It's the other way around.
"Communism" doesn't mean much now that the Soviet Union is gone, China isn't very communist, and even Cuba is talking about change.
Nowadays, without Russian or Chinese or even Albanian backing, Communist or formerly Communist parties converging with other socialists and leftists and liberals in a "progressivism" that wouldn't have seemed like much in the party's heyday.
I’m trying to find the actual denial-—must’ve missed it-——West is exactly right and I hope he doesn’t find some reason to apologize.
Progressivism=Neo-Communism. Even Progressive would agree communism, until now, has been a failure. However, that is only because it wasn’t done right.
So, try try try again.
Ironically, progressivism was done more hampered the greatest system in the world. Even with all the monkey wrenches capitalism has created the closest to thing to paradise.
The obviously flaw with fundamentally changing a basically free society to some form of communism/socialism/fascism you run out of “rich” folks, and or industrious workers, to pay for such a Utopiian society.
So, you muck up the system, that while not perfect, worked. It woulld have worked even better had it not been mucked with.
Do the Democratic Party's Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) share ideology?
Maybe that's best answered by asking them directly, "Do you have the same goals?" Same goals = same outfits = same enemy. Communists and communism used to be our enemy - they still are. We fought several hot wars and a long cold war against communism. Communism hasn't changed one iota. Now that we have a communist mole in the White House, it's more important than ever that the electorate understand the dangers of socialism/communism.
Education is the key. Found these on Gorbachev: Keep an eye on Gorbachev and Mikhail Gorbachev: From the Presidium to the Presidio Why was Gorbachev given the Admiral's mansion at the Presidio?
From the second article: "Barack Obama and Joseph Biden secretly met with Mikhail Gorbachev IN the WHITEHOUSE on March 20, 2009. The meeting was NOT published beforehand, and nobody in the public knows what was discussed."
November 6th seems so far away. . . Hang in there folks and spread the word the best you can.
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