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California Declares War on Suburbia, Planners want to herd millions into densely packed corridors
WSJ ^ | April 9, 2012 | Wendell Cox

Posted on 04/13/2012 4:03:19 AM PDT by opentalk

It's no secret that California's regulatory and tax climate is driving business investment to other states. California's high cost of living also is driving people away. Since 2000 more than 1.6 million people have fled, and my own research as well as that of others points to high housing prices as the principal factor.

The exodus is likely to accelerate. California has declared war on the most popular housing choice, the single family, detached home—all in the name of saving the planet.

Metropolitan area governments are adopting plans that would require most new housing to be built at 20 or more to the acre, which is at least five times the traditional quarter acre per house. State and regional planners also seek to radically restructure urban areas, forcing much of the new hyperdensity development into narrowly confined corridors.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; ickei; nasa; un
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1 posted on 04/13/2012 4:03:26 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

WHY would anyone willingly live in Kalefornia?


2 posted on 04/13/2012 4:07:40 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: opentalk

Best thing they could for existing home prices.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 4:16:50 AM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Kozak

Damn, sorry about the multiple posts.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 4:17:54 AM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: clee1
Really. The state is nothing more than a laboratory for loony lefty ideas. The people there are nothing more than Guinea pigs who have to run a maze of rules and regulations and if they make a mistake they get zapped with fines.
Like North Korea with better weather.
7 posted on 04/13/2012 4:26:01 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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> Damn, sorry about the multiple posts.
It happens to all of us. I wish there was a way to prevent it.


8 posted on 04/13/2012 4:27:53 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: clee1

Good question. You couldn’t give me all the gold in Ft. Knox to move to California.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 4:29:02 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: opentalk

Yeah, let’s see them start with the limousine liberals in Beverly Hills and Malibu if they’re really serious about that crap.


10 posted on 04/13/2012 4:29:13 AM PDT by Stosh
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” I wish there was a way to prevent it. “

Difficult to prevent, but ya can correct it by clicking “Abuse” on the duplicate posts and asking the Mod to remove them ...


11 posted on 04/13/2012 4:31:57 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: opentalk

A major problem with high density housing is the spread of minor diseases and health problems. Also, there will be more neighbor-to-neighbor clashes of egos and annoyances.
This may be environmentally friendly, but it will be human deadly.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 4:32:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: clee1

As Kalifornia goes, the couintry goes. Look around - we’re a bit slower than Kalifornia in getting there, but we’re all heading to the same place.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 4:33:25 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Yorlik803
Some of that idea was kind of funny. The truth is that most of the area of Kalifornia is red but the majority of the voting population is condensed in the cities. San Francisco is liberal hell while I have a CCW issued in one or the northern inland counties. Here they are not hard to get. There is a huge agriculture business in cali, a lot of logging, and many large ranches.
Kalifronia is in the grip of liberal city socialist voters but they usually leave the rural areas alone. It is not hard to figure out that they really are not wanted or welcome out in the vast areas of the red counties. These rules for housing may work near the cities but the rest of us will just tell them where to put it.
14 posted on 04/13/2012 4:33:32 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: TEXOKIE

Agenda 21 Ping


15 posted on 04/13/2012 4:34:46 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: oldenuff2no

Too bad the lefties have a solid grip on the state. There would be parts of Cali that I wouldnt mind living but it would have to be far from the crazy crowd.
Sounds like you did it right and stayed out of the cities.


16 posted on 04/13/2012 4:38:24 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: opentalk

At 20 housing units per acre (with 640 acres in a square mile), this means each housing unit will be 2112.5 square feet or roughly 46ftx46ft without space between units. If we were to assume 8ft between units this means you get to live in a house 38ft x 38ft and still have no place to park your car.
These planners (read communists) will probably want high rise though.


17 posted on 04/13/2012 4:39:22 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: opentalk

Matrixville


18 posted on 04/13/2012 4:39:57 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: opentalk
Metropolitan area governments are adopting plans that would require most new housing to be built at 20 or more to the acre, which is at least five times the traditional quarter acre per house.

Concentrating the population into small areas while leaving large swaths of the country 'pristine' is all part of the UN's Agenda 21.

The environmentalist goals include atmospheric protection, combating pollution, protecting fragile environments, and conserving biological diversity. Agenda 21 goes well beyond environmentalism. Other broad goals include combating poverty, changing consumption patterns, promoting health, and reducing private property ownership, single-family homes, private car ownership, and privately owned farms.
Agenda 21: Conspiracy Theory or Real Threat?

19 posted on 04/13/2012 4:44:35 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: opentalk

Already done. Warsaw 1939.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 4:46:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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