Posted on 04/11/2012 8:04:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Notice: Free Republic has been in full rebellion mode since 2008 and will remain in full rebellion mode for the duration!
No more Doles!! No more McCains!! No more RINOS!!
NO ROMNEY!!
Those who cannot stomach rebellion might as well start looking for a new home on the net!!
Those who have ignored my hundreds of posts on this crucial issue or who have doubted me these last three or four years might as well get used to it. FR will never support the abortionist, homosexualist, socialist, mandate loving, constitution trampling liar Mitt Romney.
In case you haven't noticed, a TEA Party rebellion is on and Free Republic signed on years ago. There is no turning back. No more crap from the GOP-e!! They've screwed us for the last time!! Karl Rove and Mitt Romney, et al, loathe conservatism and loathe the tea party and took it upon themselves to use their money and connections to destroy nearly every one of our conservative tea party candidates while pushing their big government RINOS. That makes them the enemy. I will not reward that betrayal by giving them my support or my vote.
FR is and will remain a pro-life, pro-limited government conservative site!!
We are beholden to NO ONE!! We bow to no kings!! We bow to NO RINOS!!
I'd rather fight and die like a man than bend over and be screwed by a RINO!! I refuse to kiss Karl Rove or Mitt Romney's rings!! They can kiss my rosy red ass instead!!
FUMR!! FUGOP!!
Long live the rebellion!!
Hope my message is clear.
What is your argument. I never said I KNOW WHAT EITHER WILL DO. zonly what they have done. ????
Actually, this has been my position since the RINO Bill Buckley kicked PJB out of the GOP nearly 20 years ago. It's been clear that electing RINOs is not in our interest since then. Don't know how any conservative could ever have supported Karl Rove's party in 2000 and 2004, or McCain's bid in 2008. It's really beyond me how so many of my conservative friends took all that abuse for so long, apparently in the name of some forlorn hope that the Trotskyite Neocons running the Party since Buckley showed his true colors would somehow morph into conservatives.
But, better late than never.
It's far, far better to lose the Presidential election this year to an open Socialist than to elect a Trotskyite poser with an "R" behind his name. We're actually not so bad on defense. Obamacare might well go down in flames, for example. We can play a strong defense for another term if that's what it takes to cleanse the GOP of the Trotskyites once and for all.
To paraphrase Chiang-kaishek, Liberals are a disease of the skin, Neocons are a disease of the heart.
First things first.
That is not all you said...
Sadly we just dont know what Romney will do. We cant say that with the black hearted muslim can we
Yes, you did.
Sadly we just dont know what Romney will do. We cant say that with the black hearted muslim can we
You are correct and thank you for a well reasoned reply. What you suggest is possible, but it requires so many things to happen at once it would be extremely difficult. As long as the majority of Americans allow the corruption and dysfunctional government to continue we know how this will end.
The biggest impediment to necessary reform is the special interest you mention along with the entitlement crowd (and that includes state/local government). Our psychology as a nation has slowly shifted towards reliance on the national government and we are right where the progressives want us.
We are almost deadlocked 50/50 and the opposition party is so corrupted they continue to steer left, albeit a little slower than the progressives. All the DNC has to do is keep their base believing that you and I owe them something and they will win. There is more support for this poison among conservatives than you would believe.... just read a good social security thread on FR.
What happened is one Mormon supporting another hoping to fulfill the White Horse prophecy
The your analogy assumes she might not marry one of the two you don’t approve of. That is not gonna happen. The USA will elect one of the two. So which one OF THE TWO would you prefer for the next 4 years? You can wish for some other option but it isn’t there.
Never said I loved a RINO, Jim. I said we have to pick the GOP over OBAMA. That is all... No other party or candidate has a chance in this cycle.
“Stay home and don’t cancel out an Obama vote if you want.” That is essentially what you are telling everyone and I think it is dangerous to our Republic to do so in these times.
BTW, I am so conservative that I, like MANY conservatives, voted for Perot over GHWB in ‘92 because he lied about raising taxes. Look what it got us... Clinton as president with only 48% of the vote. A lukewarm conservative reaction to McCain (I hate to even type the name), may of got us Obama, not sure, but it did help Obama.
That is not true. Newt could still be the nominee.
The USA will elect one of the two. So which one OF THE TWO would you prefer for the next 4 years?
They are both evil so it doesn't matter that much. I would prefer that the GOP, since it is supposed to represent conservatism, was not lead by a far-left pathological liar.
You can wish for some other option but it isnt there.
There are always other options. One is to not give support to either one. I have obligations to maintain that prevent me from supporting any evil much less one that sits in the POTUS chair.
Do what you think you have to do. Good luck.
touche
But if you take the black hearted muslim as his word then we can, can’t we. Umm, what was it he told President Putin to wait for?
Oh and his words paraphrased “Under my plans energy prices will necessarily skyrocket”
Unlike some, I do listen to what he say’s and I do believe him.
Do you honestly believe he has accomplshed everything he said he will do? Do you really believe that he has changed America the way he wants. Has he totally destroyed Capitalism? Not yet, but he denounces it everywhere he goes,
Do I know he WILL destroy it. Of course not! But I know he wants to. ‘Obamas Pick for World Bank Hates Capitalism’ - Google that if you must
So quick playing your little word games.
touche
But if you take the black hearted muslim as his word then we can, can’t we. Umm, what was it he told President Putin to wait for?
Oh and his words paraphrased “Under my plans energy prices will necessarily skyrocket”
Unlike some, I do listen to what he say’s and I do believe him.
Do you honestly believe he has accomplshed everything he said he will do? Do you really believe that he has changed America the way he wants. Has he totally destroyed Capitalism? Not yet, but he denounces it everywhere he goes,
Do I know he WILL destroy it. Of course not! But I know he wants to. ‘Obamas Pick for World Bank Hates Capitalism’ - Google that if you must
When he tries to institute his liberal policies people won't say to me "look at that that's what you voted for." Which is what some of my Democrat-voting friends did say to me when George Bush was instituting liberal policies like MediCare part D, No Child Left Behind and when he said he would sign the AWB.
There you go again with the personal attacks. Grow up.
Let me go over my belief again: I find it invalid when a person of one FAITH says another FAITH is wrong. That has been my argument for some time. Got it? Arguing over the validity of any religion is an exercise in metaphysics; nothing can be proven. You and others miss this repeated argument, claiming that I am defending your spiritual enemies. What will it take for you to understand this? Huh? This reminds me of how the Nazis hated the Jews; nothing could lead them from their obsessive hatred. Go back to the issue of logic!
Gall? The tone was not set by me, and you followed it well. My compliments to your gall! The stuff I’m reading on this thread makes me sick. I never thought FR would sink into a pit of such hatred and hysteria.
Let me guess. You will not consider the hatred and hysteria issue, you’ll just tell me to leave; right? If so, my points have all been proven.
I’m Pro-God, Pro-USA, Pro-Constitution, Pro-life, Pro-Family and Pro-Liberty. I fit the requirements put up by JimRob himself. But I disagree with anything that helps Obama. People who care for this nation cannot agree that Obama should be removed - evil is at work.
Yes, I hope you are right about the outside chance Newt could get the nomination. It would be like one of those “last play wins the game” scenarios in sports. It does happen now and then.
Good point.
I should have stated: “I believe him when he says anything to the detriment of America.” Otherwise, not at all
I like the idea of playing to the end of the echo of the whistle!
Since the recent past, (GWB minus $ 4 Trillion/8 years; Obama minus $ 5 Trillion / 3+ years), has been non-salvagable, does that not require that there must be a fundamental financial philosophy change in both political parties?
Either Obama or Obamalite would produce NO change that is financially salvageable.
Romneys pal, Rep. Ryan, plans to hold onto our disastrous entitlements and magically balance the budget in 30 YEARS. No mention how he is going to pay off the 15 + Trillion Dollar dept.
Uprooting the GOP-Elites from their insanity, (= doing the same things over and over again, and expecting different results (Einstein)), is necessary to achieve a salvageable result.
GAME ON!
Amen to that, Norm!
“and, at this time, the alternative is.......?”
Yeah, Jim, while I know you still seem to think Newt has a shot (and is a conservative, HA!), I’m betting the conservative-GOP-nominee ship has sailed already, so I’ll be looking forward to hearing you speak to that alternative AFTER the primaries are over. Remember, there will be a few other candidates out there to consider besides Rat and Rat-Lite. Better to vote third party and at least make my voice heard than let Romney and Obama think I supported either of them.
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