Posted on 04/10/2012 6:48:34 AM PDT by marktwain
Seems to fit the circumstances and an excellent course for the defense to take if this gets to trial.
If it does not get to trial, I hope everyone is at a personal defcon2 status.
I will add something it doesn’t address:
It is argued that Zimmerman chased down and caught Martin, who was running to his father’s place. But if you look at the timeline, Martin could have walked to his father’s house from Zimmerman twice after Zimmerman called the police. So why was he still so close to Zimmerman’s truck when he died.
I think the actual timeline supports that he left and hid, and when Zimmerman turned around he attacked him from behind, just as Zimmerman says.
There’s a lot of stuff about the timing of the 911 call that I didn’t know before and the press appears to have gone out of its way to conceal. Now the only question is the exact events that occurred when Martin approached Zimmerman near the end since it is clear the Zimmerman gave up his pursuit so Martin had to double back on him. Did Martin sucker punch Zimmerman? Did Zimmerman draw on Martin when he first saw him so Martin was defending himself? Or did something in between occur? I really don’t know and the only witness is Zimmerman.
If the facts prove Zimmermann was not at fault, then he should seek damages from NBC, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
Analysis does not matter.
Logic does not matter.
Rationality does not matter.
Facts do not matter.
Jurisprudence does not matter.
Only what the Bolshevik mob “feels” matters.
They “feel” that a little boy was murdered in cold blood by a big, evyl “White-Hispanic” man (whatever that is) with a Jew-sounding name carrying an evyl (gasp!) gun.
Now they “feel” that the evyl White-Hispanic man (whatever that is) with the Jew-sounding name who was carrying an evyl (gasp!) gun must be brought to “justice”, whatever it is they “feel” that is.
Interesting discussion from the FL law point of view.
“Analysis does not matter.
Logic does not matter.
Rationality does not matter.
Facts do not matter.
Jurisprudence does not matter.
Only what the Bolshevik mob “feels” matters.”
The MSNBC Klux Klan Lynch Mob wants BLOOD, even after ABC, CNN, and NBC admitting they LIED to them.
And you WONDER how a man like Barack Obama could be elected President?
Yes.
And “damages” should be easily determined. Not the amount, but the fact that his life is threatened because of direct lies about the facts by both NBC and ABC, and the race pimps.
This is not "a fact." It is the story told by Mr. Zimmerman. It is a contention, not a fact.
It is a fact there was a fight. How that fight started we do not know. It is likely, based on witness testimony, that Zimmerman was losing the fight when he fired and was indeed in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm at that point.
But there are a number of things Zimmerman could have done to precipitate the fight, constituting assault, and therefore preventing him from claiming self defense.
Since nobody (alive) but Zimmerman is available to testify about what started the fight, we will never know what happened.
There is probably no evidence to contradict Mr. Zimmerman's testimony. This does not prove he is telling the truth, it only proves we can't prove he is lying.
If Martin were alive and Zimmerman dead, we would probably be in a similar situation. Martin would claim Zimmerman attacked him, armed, and he defended himself. We would probably be unable to prove otherwise.
He likely ran to hide drugs, and/or burglary tools.
Trayvon felt 'dissed' by Zimmerman's initial questioning. And after going back to daddy's GF Townhouse (per a published diagrammed map of events) his anger at being 'dissed' built up and Trayvon went back to Zimmerman mad as hell, confronted him on the sidewalk near Zimmerman's car then cold-cocked him knocking him to the ground. When 'Tray' had Zimmerman on the ground he started banging his head on the sidewalk/ground plus punching his face.Ergo, the shooting was justified, or as some call it 'righteous'. One or two more head whacks to the ground could have 'done it'. Death or permanent Brain Damage and life as a vegetable for Zimmerman.The fight itself just happened to be in front of the window of witness 'John', who confirmed Zimmerman's story of the beating to the PD.
And Trayvon's own MySpace and Twitter account writing sure shot a hole in the story of him being an angelic little kid. He was a 17yo gangsta with a dirty ghetto mouth who would for sure take offense to being 'dissed'.
Case closed.
Now you are making up ‘facts’.
There was no evidence of a fight, Martin didn't have a mark on him other than the gunshot wound.
It is a fact that a beating took place, and all the evidence and witnesses to that show it was one sided and all directed at Zimmerman.
Everything in the case supports Zimmerman's claim of self-defense.
There is no indication that Zimmerman was even returning blows, thus not "losing" a "fight".
If "John" and the mortician who tended to Martin's body are to believed, Zimmerman basically was attacked and did nothing more than fended off blows waiting for someone to come and help. At some point the gun discharged. The fact that there was not a round in the chamber when the police retrieved the weapon, suggests some obstruction preventing the gun to cycle normally. Typical of a close quarters struggle.
A fight does not have to be evenly matched to be a fight.
In my opinion the authorities, are weighing the question, "Is it better to placate the racists with a trial?"... "but if the trial does not produce the "desired results", how bad will that be, compared to deciding a no trial backlash based on overwhelming evidence of justifiable self defense"... damned if they do and damned if they don't...
In my opinion the authorities, are weighing the question, "Is it better to placate the racists with a trial?"... "but if the trial does not produce the "desired results", how bad will that be, compared to deciding a no trial backlash based on overwhelming evidence of justifiable self defense"... damned if they do and damned if they don't...
I would have said a “person” not “body” the way it turned out.
A beating, on the other hand, can be one sided. All facts in the case point to that here.
Interesting and worth keeping.
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