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Whether or not he's a Christian, I have a major problem calling him a "conservative"

1 posted on 04/08/2012 12:02:32 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I have a problem calling Rick Warren a Christian, nor to I care for his spin on politics.


2 posted on 04/08/2012 12:03:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: markomalley

Isn’t Rick Warren one of those Chrislam people?


6 posted on 04/08/2012 12:17:03 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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The mormonophobes are outcasts not endorsed by any candidate


7 posted on 04/08/2012 12:18:04 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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“Rick Warren is not a christian he is a Muslim kiss up..and also friends to Obama..”

We have big time pastors, such as Pastor Rick Warren of the Saddleback church diving into the sewage of political correctness and compromise. He talks of a Christian and Islamic partnership. He calls Christians and Muslims to work with each other and focus on a social doctrine, namely, spiritual emptiness, corrupt leadership, extreme poverty, disease and illiteracy.

Apparently, in our newfound religion of ‘chrislam’ we are to ignore the gospel of Christ, which doesn’t include Muhammad’s vision and oppressive teaching?

At the very least, we are to water down and push to the back room, the unique, gospel message of Jesus. Are we to pretend fundamentalist Islam doesn’t want a worldwide caliphate, preach jihad and death to infidels, Christians and Jews.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2011/10/does-bestselling-author-rick-warren-want-christianity-islam-to-merge-into-chrislam.php


12 posted on 04/08/2012 12:27:15 PM PDT by PLD
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To: markomalley

Islam denies God in three persons as well.


13 posted on 04/08/2012 12:27:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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I would vote for a Zoroastrian or a Tengri shaman or Shinto priest or an Odinist who was conservative. I won’t vote for a smug abortion mongering statist no matter what label he wears.


15 posted on 04/08/2012 12:32:29 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: markomalley

As a Christian, a Gingrich supporter and an American, I am not so much concerned about Romney’s Christianness as I am about getting rid of the Islamist Marxist currently in the White House. The more I learn about the Frankfurt School, critical theory, Alinsky, etc., the more clear becomes Obama’s plans for America. Of all the attempts to destroy our Republic, we are closer to the end of America as it was intended as ever. Are we strong enough, knowledgeable enough and resolved enough to preserve our Republic?.


17 posted on 04/08/2012 12:35:01 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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Hey Rick, how would you classify Obama’s “religion”?


20 posted on 04/08/2012 12:52:32 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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Here is the Link to Saddlebacks Easter services.
http://www.saddleback.com/blogs/internetcampus/

Instead of bashing Rick why don't you listen to a service and get your facts straight.

22 posted on 04/08/2012 12:53:52 PM PDT by troy McClure
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Why did Warren find no "problem" in calling Obama and his Reverend Wright "Black Liberation Theology" Christian?

Surely he knew the tenets of "Black Liberation Theology" as expressed by its founder James Cone. Here's a few:

From “A Black Theology of Liberation” by James H. Cone (1970)

The black experience is the feeling one has when attacking the enemy of black humanity by throwing a Molotov cocktail into a white-owned building and watching it go up in flames. (Page 25)

The black Christ is he who nourishes the rebellious impulse in blacks so that at the appointed time the black community can respond collectively to the white community as a corporate “bad nigger,” lashing out at the enemy of human-kind. (page 121)

To be a disciple of the black Christ is to become black with him. Looting, burning, or the destruction of white property are not primary concerns. Such matters can only be decided by the oppressed themselves who are seeking to develop their images of the black Christ. (page 123)

From “Black Theology and Black Power” by James H. Cone (1969):
All white men are responsible for white oppression. (page 24)

…violence may be the black man’s expression, sometimes the only possible expression, of Christian love to the white oppressor. (page 55)

As for how closely Obama's spiritual "Christian" mentor followed in James Cones footsteps:

Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago is the church most frequently cited by press accounts, and by Cone as the best example of a church formally founded on the vision of Black liberation theology.

24 posted on 04/08/2012 12:55:57 PM PDT by drpix
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I don't care much for Rick Warren but a broken clock....

Given the position he holds in the Mormon church, Bishop Romney will have a hard time distancing himself from the troubling revelations about Mormonism that will be coming out over the general election campaign. It's not like he's someone who is a casual member who occasionally sits in the pews and could plausibly claim ignorance.

26 posted on 04/08/2012 12:59:56 PM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: markomalley

Rick is not a Christian and no judge of Mitt.


27 posted on 04/08/2012 1:00:36 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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I think Richard Land summed it up well when he indicated alot of Christians have a problem with Romney because “he isn’t Mormon enough”. It is perceived that most Mormons are very conservative and some of Romney’s policy positions and stands in the past doesn’t square with a what some perceive someone from the Mormon faith adhering to. Right or wrong, that’s the view of many.


28 posted on 04/08/2012 1:03:26 PM PDT by MachIV
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...the Christine doctrine of the Trinity.

Whaa? Who is Christine? And why should I care about her point of view?

Early on in the Republican contest, Santorum had the best answer to this kind of question. He said a candidate's VALUES are the most important--not necessarily what religion to which they were an adherent.

Applause followed his answer.

Look, Jimmy Carter was a Southern Baptist. Gimme a break. Until Obama came along, he was the worst occupant of the Oval Office in my lifetime.

I'd rather have a conservative Catholic (or Mormon) than a liberal Baptist. I'd rather have a conservative Baptist than a liberal Mormon. You take what you can get.

The Republicans are down to, what, a very conservative Catholic (Santorum) to a converted Catholic (Gingrich) to an unknown non-religious guy (Paul) to a middling Mormon (Romney).

Not exactly a collection of WASPs. :)

And ANY of them will be better than Jeremiah Wright's little buddy, the JOKER socialist Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm).

29 posted on 04/08/2012 1:08:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: markomalley

Have a problem with Mitt. Have a bigger problem with Rick Warren.

(Have a problem with RNC/GOP for insuring Romney nomination.
Will have a problem voting for him ; but not supporting Obama: in amy fashion including ‘omission’.


30 posted on 04/08/2012 1:11:14 PM PDT by cricket (. It is more than the economy. . .and Newt knows it.)
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To: markomalley

My question is why did not Christian Rick Warren make a statement about Zer0’s Christianity as practiced in his Chicago church under Rev. Jerimiah Wright? You would think that Rick Warren would recognize Black Liberation Theology when he saw it. However, Rick Warren was mum on the Zer0 because he is in Zer0’s camp. That is why he is bringing up the Mormon topic—to cast Christian negatives on Mitt with the use of Christianity.


37 posted on 04/08/2012 1:44:33 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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Does Rick Warren’s church have “Jesus Christ” as part of its name? Because if not, I’d really question whether Rick Warren is a Christian.


39 posted on 04/08/2012 1:47:31 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: markomalley

I have a problem with calling Rick Warren a Christian also...


40 posted on 04/08/2012 1:57:04 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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Whether or not he's a Christian, I have a major problem calling him a "conservative"

LOL, perfect.

43 posted on 04/08/2012 2:31:32 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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Romney is a Christian the way that a Muslim is a Christian. They acknowledge the divine nature of Christ, but both religions say that their prophets supersede and perfect Christ’s teachings, and that their “holy books” supersede the Bible.


44 posted on 04/08/2012 2:47:44 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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