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Rick Warren explains the problem in calling Romney a ‘Christian’
The Daily Caller ^ | 04/08/2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 04/08/2012 12:02:28 PM PDT by markomalley

Much has been made about Mormonism, now that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney looks to be on his way to the Republican presidential nomination.

But should he win the general election in November, would it be accurate to say that Romney is a Christian president? On Sunday’s “This Week” on ABC, fill-in host Jake Tapper posed the question of Romney’s religion to Rick Warren, the pastor of the California mega-church, Saddleback Church.

“Mitt Romney will almost certainly be the Republican nominee and if that happens, which it looks like it will, he’ll be the first member of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to be the nominee,” Tapper said. “A lot of evangelicals have been talking about whether or not Mormons are Christians. Are Mormons Christians?”

Warren explained the problems with saying Mormons are Christians, saying it is centered around the Church of Latter Day Saints’ interpretation of the Christine doctrine of the Trinity.

“The key sticking point for evangelicals and actually for many is the issue of the trinity,” Warren said. “That’s a historic doctrine of the Church — that God is three in one. Not three Gods, one God in father, son and Holy Spirit. Mormonism denies that. That’s a sticking point for a lot of Catholic Christians, Evangelical Christians, Pentecostal Christians because they don’t believe that. Now, they’ll use the same terminology. But they don’t believe in the historic doctrine of the trinity. And people have tried to make it other issues, but that’s one of the fundamental differences.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ca2012; christians; ldschurch; megachurch; mormon; rickwarren; romney; romneyandgod; saddleback
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To: mylife

So does Judaism.


41 posted on 04/08/2012 2:16:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Dapper 26

If my father was a staunch liberal Democrat, does that mean I am eternally destined to be one too?

Actually Michigan Governor George Romney who so admired Alinsky was a staunch left wing Republican. As is his son.


42 posted on 04/08/2012 2:17:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: markomalley
Whether or not he's a Christian, I have a major problem calling him a "conservative"

LOL, perfect.

43 posted on 04/08/2012 2:31:32 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: markomalley

Romney is a Christian the way that a Muslim is a Christian. They acknowledge the divine nature of Christ, but both religions say that their prophets supersede and perfect Christ’s teachings, and that their “holy books” supersede the Bible.


44 posted on 04/08/2012 2:47:44 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario

Uh, Muslims don’t believe Jesus is divine. They believe he is a prophet of God AND a Muslim.


45 posted on 04/08/2012 2:52:48 PM PDT by magritte (Don't blame me. I voted for a real conservative, Rick Perry.)
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To: markomalley

Wonder if Rick Warren is a christian..
Could be a non christian called a Mormon a non christian..
Maybe the conversation is a house of mirrors..

With mirrors to make you look FAT and mirrors to make you look skinny..
Its not about MONEY!?.. or is it?..


46 posted on 04/08/2012 3:05:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: markomalley

Rick Warren is a typical megachurch phony. But in this case, he is an Obama lover as well.


47 posted on 04/08/2012 3:21:56 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: troy McClure

Thanks for posting.


48 posted on 04/08/2012 3:40:57 PM PDT by marron
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To: markomalley

Tell me again why we MUST nominate a person that Christians do not take seriously, when the REPUBLICAN PARTY is a Christian-based.

...or maybe it’s me.


49 posted on 04/08/2012 3:53:44 PM PDT by BobL
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To: nolongerademocrat

I believe that was debunked. Check out snopes etc.


50 posted on 04/08/2012 4:31:31 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: markomalley

Obama’s favorite pulpit stooge is plowing the ground for the Supreme One once again.


51 posted on 04/08/2012 5:13:42 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: markomalley

I have more confidence in Romney’s Christianity than I do in Obama’s.


52 posted on 04/08/2012 5:25:36 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: ArGee

“Politics has nothing to do with whether one is a Christian.”

Hi Argee, not to argue but...

I keep sharing, yes it does, decisions are based on a person’s morals and virtue or lack of them. It’s error to say do not mix Politics and Religion. This falsehood especially today started so those who wish to act immoral won’t hear about it, the godly representatives in Washington.

The founders didn’t want to eliminate God, they wanted
to eliminate religious persecution.

May I share a great quote I read today ~

“God appears as the opposite of our freedom. We need to be free of him – so we think – and only then will we be free. This is the fundamental rebellion present throughout history and the fundamental lie which perverts life. When human beings set themselves against God, they set themselves against the truth of their own being and consequently do not become free, but alienated from themselves. We are free only if we stand in the truth of our being, if we are united to God. Then we become truly “like God” – not by resisting God, eliminating him, or denying him.”


53 posted on 04/08/2012 5:29:40 PM PDT by stpio
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To: prairiebreeze

Okay, thanks.


54 posted on 04/08/2012 5:36:35 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: newzjunkey
There are religious Jews who would argue that point as the baby has never taken its first breath so the 6th commandment doesn't apply to abortion.

There are some Jews that would rejoice if Iran nuked Israel, don't make them right.

55 posted on 04/08/2012 5:57:26 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: jjotto
John when he was in the womb leaped for joy when Mary entered the room while pregnant with Jesus, so apparently they were in communication, guess we should kill them off before that, whenever that is.

Abortion is wrong, no matter what the excuse, health of the mother is a straw man argument.

56 posted on 04/08/2012 6:01:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: docbnj

“To a phony Catholic, like some I could name? To Christians who favor abortion? To black racists who use churches as a cover? Or to something else?”

~ ~ ~

This is the prejudice no one directly talks about in this primary, anti-Catholicism.


57 posted on 04/08/2012 6:02:27 PM PDT by stpio
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To: driftdiver
Rick Warren is an opportunist, @sshole.

If he had any CHRISTIAN DECENCY at all, he would have stayed away from Obama due solely to the Jeremiah Wright tapes.


58 posted on 04/08/2012 6:46:43 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: driftdiver
Meant to say Rick Warren is an opportunist @sshole.

Sorry about the comma.

59 posted on 04/08/2012 6:47:56 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: jonrick46

Precisely, because Rick Warren is an opportunist @sshole who would rather make money off of populist crap than tell the TRUTH about how HORRIFIC Obama and his “Jeremiah Wright church” are.


60 posted on 04/08/2012 6:50:55 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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