What a contemptible little coward! Now Mark Steyn is the last good writer there. Reminds me of when they fired Ann Coulter shortly after 9/11.
1 posted on
04/07/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by
cartan
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To: cartan
Derbyshire isn’t a writer I’d feel comfortable defending, but on the other hand, his particular piece, while written provocatively, was an excellent parody of the recent “what black parents tell their children”.
It has been a vicious racist thing — smearing all whites with some collective guilt and perpetuating black hatred and entitlement, making black children both fear and loathe and hate and in many cases feel justified in physically attacking whites.
Derbyshire took selective statistics to show that white parents could much more rationally and justifiably warn their children about associations with blacks — and for that, he was fired.
To: cartan
I assumed he said something that wasn’t pro- Romney.
93 posted on
04/07/2012 6:48:47 PM PDT by
vmivol00
(I won't be reconstructed.)
To: cartan
Screw you, NR. This is certainly separating the idiots and servile cowards from those who see the truth and have the guts to say it/write it.
96 posted on
04/07/2012 7:02:58 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
To: cartan
100 posted on
04/07/2012 7:14:32 PM PDT by
Doctor 2Brains
(If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
To: cartan
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103 posted on
04/07/2012 7:28:42 PM PDT by
dynachrome
("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
To: cartan
I dropped my subscription years ago. A shame - it was such a nice magazine.
To: cartan
Lowry has joined the ranks of Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Louis Farakhan. He’s joined the race baiters, apologists and anyone against open debate. The man is worthless and despicable. I used to subscribe to NRO years ago before joining FR. I dropped that subscription when I came here. This simply justifies my decision. They are nothing to me.
I don’t know how many here still subscribe to NRO. I’d suspect a fair number. I suggest those who do reconsider to send a message to Lowry and NRO. We don’t care for your bipartisan rhetoric. We don’t care for your juvenile opinion. We do care for the truth and John Derbyshire wrote the truth, regardless of how unseemly it may appear. Either be a man or go to Hell.
122 posted on
04/07/2012 7:53:43 PM PDT by
bcsco
To: cartan
So there has to be a parting of the ways. Derb has long danced around the line on these issues, but this column is so outlandish it constitutes a kind of letter of resignation.
Rich Lowry, you're a moron. National Review has turned to crap since the death of Wm. F. Buckley, Jr..
123 posted on
04/07/2012 7:53:58 PM PDT by
aruanan
To: cartan; Travis McGee; Pelham; Twink; sauropod
Given you have only been here 8 years there was a time even here that Derbyshire’s article woulda been yanked pronto and a whole mess of Klown Posse/Goldberg type PC freepers woulda been calling for your head on a platter as a racist.
That is a fact. I have no idea how I survived those strange about race days.
there was a definite contingent of those types here then...not many anymore
the Rudy purge took many of them....those who didn’t go with the Klowns
127 posted on
04/07/2012 7:59:27 PM PDT by
wardaddy
(I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
To: cartan
So this is what happens when someone takes Holder at his word and tries to initiate that honest debate on race. Of course, this isn't what Holder and the left mean by "honest"-they mean that whites haven't swallowed enough white guilt and turned their homes, cars and goods over to the "oppressed" blacks to do with as they will. They didn't mean that the truth regarding crime rates, IQ differences, foreward-thinking and impulse control should be brought into the discourse.
This is sickening. We have GOT to stop being scared of the "rayciss" accusation as it's no more than a means to keep the most objective facts regarding black dysfunction verboten. No one wants honesty, truth, the facts as they are-they want everlasting white guilt until whites lay down and die.
Guess what? The end of whites in this world will be your worst nightmare, and you have Detroit and Haiti, amongst many others, like the ghost of Christmas past present and future, to show it to you. Nothing could be more indicative of black vengeance to the point of their own self-destruction than to have these examples and still to want whites exterminated from the earth.
I have utter NFS, because when one race as a whole is responsible for the highest negative indicators but that truth must be suppressed, a civilised society can never survive. Just so sick that one man had the courage to have that honest talk, and look what he got. Though I suspect he knew this was coming. No one ever believed Holder wanted an honest two-way talk, just more white breast-beating as we offer up yet another sacrifice-our achievements, our society, the greatness of our civilisation and history, our cities and nations(how many cities have to be sacrificed as Detroit, Birmingham, more)---because they are eaten up with impotent rage that they can not produce these things.
143 posted on
04/07/2012 8:34:49 PM PDT by
mrsmel
To: cartan
Here is the letter I sent to them:
Dear Mr. Lowry and all,
Of course you are going to get about a million and two letters about firing Derbyshire and since youve disabled comments Im sure youre expecting them.
So, heres mine.
I didnt like the piece at all. The tone was dreadful. The advice, however sadly, is sound.
And you know that. Youre not going to let any of your kids go to any rap concerts or to black greek day or to 110th street at night, not if you can help it.
Mr. Lowry your two posts on this are craven.
As to the first, I doubt that everyone at NR disdains his advice to children, per what I said above, Im pretty sure any parents there share his views and convey it to their children, although in far less snarky terms.
As to the second, Derb is not described as a national review writer on the Taki site. So NR is both full of itself and cowardly. We see another conservative site jump when told to by the MSM/Left. They are the enemy, but I guess you dont get that. Even in your exalted position you dont get what I got reading Time magazine in the barbershop 45 years ago. The Left hates America, it hates white people and yeah, it hates NR and it hates you, Rich Lowry. Nothing you do will ever appease them. You could go to Derbs house and beat him to death with your bare hand tonight and it wont be enough, just wait and see.
Ive always been a conservative and if asked to define that further I would say Im a National Review conservative.
But maybe Im not anymore.
I was a little upset when you fired Anne Coulter, but I understood you all felt sandbagged about that piece.
But this is different. You didnt publish this piece, all you really needed to say was we didnt publish it, its Derbs and Takis, its got nothing to do with us.
But no, in true farcical fashion the response is Run Away!!!! coupled with Youre Fired!
We wont beat the left with mettle like this.
I guess Ill have to say Im a Free Republic conservative from now on.
Thanks for your attention to my message,
[Jocon307]
To: cartan
Except forMark Steyn, they have become geldings..
149 posted on
04/07/2012 8:52:47 PM PDT by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: cartan
I’m a bit surprised actually. This is the type of disproportionate hissy fit you’d expect as routine from a leftist publication. In the past I remember their writers taking shots at each other but this kind of editorial squawking is just a tissue covering rank pusillanimity (as Buckley pere might have been able to say without even resorting to spellcheck)
To: cartan
Yeah, its a free country. He can write whatever he likes. Just can’t find an outlet for it anymore. yeah, thats free all right.
To: cartan
I found this in Wikipedia:
“In April 2012, Derbyshire wrote an article for Taki’s Magazine titled “The Talk: Nonblack Version.” The article was a response to reports in the news media of ‘talks’ given by African American parents to their children warning them against white authority figures.”
To: cartan
His latest provocation, in a webzine, lurches from the politically incorrect to the nasty and indefensible.
Rich, baby,
DEMONSTRATE that it was indefensible, that it was "nasty" (I guess "said with the intent to provoke trouble and to cause pain"). In this case you, like so many liberals, are merely
asserting without doing the heavy lifting of demonstration and analysis. Oh, wait, I know, like so many liberals, you just
know it's so, and because it's so
obvious to every right-minded person, there is no need to actually demonstrate anything. I submit that the reasons you don't want to demonstrate anything are at least two:
1. you fear the crap storm that would come down on you if you had to come to the conclusion that what he posited and for which he offered evidence was actually true
2. you fear the crap storm that would come down on you if you even tried to verify it because others would say of you that it is "nasty and indefensible" to even dignify it by examining what everyone already knows to be otherwise.
So, in order to avoid the discomfort of the crap storm and in order avoid looking like you're "nasty and indefensible" you avoid looking hard at what he said and determining whether or not it is true. You, like so many loser Republicans in Congress choose "comity" over "conflict."
In doing this, Rich, you have moved your tent all the way into the territory of the unreflective that is ruled by whoever determines what the reigning sentiment is to be. Whoopie do, so you can say shibboleth, too. Who are those folks? What is their purpose in trying to push public opinion in this or that way? How will it benefit them? Oh, don't ask those questions or you'll be nasty and indefensible. Just go with the crowd and everything will be okay: Everyone else is wearing their pants down around their ass, so you will, too, or they'll laugh at you. Everyone else is getting a tattoo, so you will, too, or they'll laugh at you. Everyone else is wearing parachute pants, so you will, too, or they'll laugh at you. Everyone else is wearing big hair, so you will, too, or they'll laugh at you. Everyone else is wearing skinny jeans, so you will, too, or they'll laugh at you. Everyone else is jumping off the cliff, so you will, too. I mean, geez, you wouldn't want to be left all alone up there after everyone has disappeared below the surface, trailing a line of bubbles into the murky depths.
The newer generation at National Review needs to grow the hell up already. If we had had founding fathers like you, there would have been no founding.
178 posted on
04/08/2012 4:57:19 AM PDT by
aruanan
To: cartan
181 posted on
04/08/2012 5:19:40 AM PDT by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: cartan; wardaddy
There are some truths that must not be uttered, or the writer will face excommunication from the mainline flock.
182 posted on
04/08/2012 5:22:08 AM PDT by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: cartan
Ann Coulter is a newly proven RINO...and an intellectual Romney fellator in her blog.
186 posted on
04/08/2012 6:00:01 AM PDT by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: cartan
So, when do we get to that honest discussion on race?
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