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They seem to not understand that their views of the relationship between citizen and government is one of the reasons their ancestors came to America.
1 posted on 04/05/2012 6:24:16 PM PDT by TexasNative2000
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Talk to a European about neo nazis or the klan and their heads explode at the idea that allowing them to exist in the open is a good thing.


2 posted on 04/05/2012 6:28:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Europeans have LBJs idea of “Freedom” — “Freedom from work” “Freedom of vacations” “Freedom to have the State supply all your need” “Freedom to have countrywide tantrums if you don’t make my life easy.”

We saw how well that worked for Greece...


3 posted on 04/05/2012 6:28:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: TexasNative2000

..hey Europe, remember this guy?

4 posted on 04/05/2012 6:29:56 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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“Hey, what is this stuff called freedom?”. “Checks and balances?”. Geez, who wouldn’t want to be like Europe?! /s


5 posted on 04/05/2012 6:30:47 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Europe can use that baffler when they blow it out their arse.


6 posted on 04/05/2012 6:31:07 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: TexasNative2000
Hawaii used its statewide Equal Rights Amendment to try and validate gay marriages, i.e. if a man and a woman are equal before the law then there is no difference between a man marrying a woman and a man marrying a man.

When Phyllis Schlafly argued that this would happen back in the 70's when the ERA was being fought she was looked at with blank stares: how did you come up with that?

Easy. She used logic. Just like Scalia is doing by extending Obama's argument for mandates in the insurance industry to potential future mandates in the food industry.

7 posted on 04/05/2012 6:31:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Way, way back in the very early 1970s, I was stationed in Germany in a unit that patrolled the east west German border. I asked my old first sergeant, who was in Korea and Vietnam, how we expected to defend against the Soviets short of nukes. He said, that is the only way we can defend. Without the nukes we are simply immediately dead. He then said that we were basically wasting our time in Germany. He said that eventually Europe would once againt be like it used to be. This guy was very smart. Actually had a law degree and got it while in the Army going through night schools in the states. He told me that the Germans were the real problem. He said really that we were there to keep the Germans from starting WW III. He said it was just in their blood. He also hated the French. He had nothing good to stay about the French. Always spoke of them like dogs. He said eventually we would be fighting another war over there. He is probably long gone fromt his earth by now, but his words still ring in my ears when I see all this Eurowinnie crap.


8 posted on 04/05/2012 6:32:12 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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In one of the very few memorable statements by SoS Condi Rice, she observed at one time, "Europe's values and our values are not the same." This simple and superficially banal statement has profound truth behind it. For those who don't get it, it will have been ignored, if it even registered. The current article illustrates well what she must have been saying.

I have no doubt Europeans are baffled by the whole concept of a limited representative government of laws. The mess they have made of the EU era illustrates even further the incoherence and impotence of European political thought.

9 posted on 04/05/2012 6:32:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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I’d rather have Western Europe than this country under the Obumster! Let’s not kid ourselves while we’re ruled by a radical marxist.


12 posted on 04/05/2012 6:35:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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Right from the beginning European settlers in the Americas had liberties they could not imagine having been extended to anyone but the highest ranking nobles back home.

I don't know if you've noticed it or not but even in HIspano-America the dictators really don't get away with the stuff European dictators do (SEE: Hitler, Stalin), and there's always a popular uprising around that is, to a degree, actually a popular uprising and not just political party astroturf.

The United States and Canada are a bit tamer, but not by much.

In this situation we all know European opinion makers truly cannot conceive of a government with restrictions!

This is why they are not worth talking too except when you interrogate them after their next big war to see if they were a Nazi, a Commie, a Royalist, or some other kind of mind-numbed, knee-jerk, robot-like Leftwingtard.

14 posted on 04/05/2012 6:37:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Perhaps this will explain the issue better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HcBaSP31Be8&vg=medium


15 posted on 04/05/2012 6:38:05 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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Oui nous pouvons, grenouilles!


16 posted on 04/05/2012 6:38:37 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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I find their bafflement delightful and hope to see it turn to total mindblown dismay when Obamacare is overturned.


17 posted on 04/05/2012 6:39:57 PM PDT by Yardstick
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Well, there’s little or nothing meaningful in the EU constitution about such issues as freedom or representative government.

We derived our Constitutional system of law from English Common Law and Christian Natural Law. But that stuff is pretty much gone now over in Europe.


20 posted on 04/05/2012 6:41:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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There’s are reasons why I can them Euro-peons! Here’s one of them.


21 posted on 04/05/2012 6:41:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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If the Euros are scratching their heads, it’s a sure sign the Founders were absolutely correct in their approach.


22 posted on 04/05/2012 6:41:51 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
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Aren’t these the inhabitants of a continent that had to be bailed out of two world wars?

Aren’t these the inhabitants of a continent that are giving up their God-given rights to the muzzies?

Aren’t these the inhabitants of a continent that has forced its inhabitants to give up their weapons?

Even Benny Hill, over 20-30 years ago, made fun of the stupid health care the British had . . . and it’s gotten worse.


26 posted on 04/05/2012 6:45:50 PM PDT by laweeks
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They might need to go back in British history and read how very well Edmund Burke understood what he called "the spirit of liberty" among the Americans.

In his "Speech on Conciliation" (1775), he documented the remarkable economic success in the colonies, the freedom which existed there, and gave his predictions about the future of the then-colonists.

And, that was before the Declaration of Independence and 1787 Constitution!

To understand the U. S. Constitution's strict limitations on government power, its structuring of a "People's" written Constitution for dividing, separating, checking, balancing, and enumerating the powers "the People" would grant to government, and the reasons why this President cannot just command his Partisan majority in Congress and laws will be rubber-stamped by a Supreme Court is to understand why America has enjoyed over 200 years of freedom!

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

So-called "progressives" understand the "divided" part of Madison's cautionary words, but the rest of us seem to ignore the rest of Madison's statement.

Might it have something to do with our not having been "well-instructed" in the ideas of freedom?

Edmund Burke, in his 1775 "Speech on Conciliation," observed the following "spirit" in the founding generations:

"Permit me, Sir, to add another circumstance in our colonies, which contributes no mean part towards the growth and effect of this untractable spirit. I mean their education. In no country perhaps in the world is the law so general a study. The profession itself is numerous and powerful; and in most provinces it takes the lead. The greater number of the deputies sent to the congress were lawyers. But all who read, and most do read, endeavour to obtain some smattering in that science. I have been told by an eminent bookseller, that in no branch of his business, after tracts of popular devotion, were so many books as those on the law exported to the plantations. The colonists have now fallen into the way of printing them for their own use. I hear that they have sold nearly as many of Blackstone's Commentaries in America as in England. General Gage marks out this disposition very particularly in a letter on your table. He states, that all the people in his government are lawyers, or smatterers in law; and that in Boston they have been enabled, by successful chicane, wholly to evade many parts of one of your capital penal constitutions. The smartness of debate will say, that this knowledge ought to teach them more clearly the rights of legislature, their obligations to obedience, and the penalties of rebellion. All this is mighty well. But my honourable and learned friend on the floor, who condescends to mark what I say for animadversion, will disdain that ground. He has heard, as well as I, that when great honours and great emoluments do not win over this knowledge to the service of the state, it is a formidable adversary to government. If the spirit be not tamed and broken by these happy methods, it is stubborn and litigious. Abeunt studia in mores. This study renders men acute, inquisitive, dexterous, prompt in attack, ready in defence, full of resources. In other countries, the people, more simple, and of a less mercurial cast, judge of an ill principle in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil, and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principle. They augur misgovernment at a distance; and snuff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze." (Underlining added for emphasis)

Burke also declared to the Parliament that what he called the colonists' "fierce spirit of liberty" also must be attributed to their "religion," "under a variety of denominations agreeing in nothing but in the communion of the spirit of liberty."

27 posted on 04/05/2012 6:46:44 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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"Sans précédent, extraordinaires"

Mais oui, ha, ha!. Eet mott be ay good teeng fahr you to raid sowm istoree, Frainch doods. Uzzairwoz you weel luke stoopeed aygain, non?

28 posted on 04/05/2012 6:46:56 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Although some of my ancestors might not agree the thing for which *I* am *genuinely* grateful to the British is their having driven several of said ancestors out of Europe.

Nobody with all of his/her marbles could possibly *want* to live in today's Europe.

29 posted on 04/05/2012 6:55:29 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President To Have Served In My Lifetime.)
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