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California state colleges consider asking students about sexual orientation on application forms
Hotair ^ | 03/30/2012 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 03/30/2012 2:04:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is it a stretch to imagine activists might someday push for affirmative action programs for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students? For now, administrators are just weighing whether to include a question about sexual orientation on application forms to determine whether California's state colleges are presently adequately serving the LGBT community:

California’s state colleges and universities are laying plans to ask students about their sexual orientation next year on application or enrollment forms, becoming the largest group of schools in the country to do so. The move has raised the hopes of gay activists for recognition but the concerns of others about privacy.

The questions, which students could answer voluntarily, would be posed because of a little-known state law aimed at gauging the size of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) populations on the campuses. The law encourages UC, Cal State and community colleges to explore whether they are offering enough services, such as counseling, for those students.

“It would be useful to know if we are underserving the population,” said Jesse Bernal, the UC system’s interim diversity coordinator. In addition, giving students the opportunity to answer such questions, he added, “sends a positive message of inclusiveness to LGBT students and creates an environment that is inclusive and welcoming of diverse populations.”

Last fall, Elmhurst College in California became the first college in the country to ask about sexual orientation on a college application:

Elmhurst College, a 3,400-student school, asks applicants: “Would you consider yourself a member of the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) community?” A positive response could help students qualify for scholarships given to diversify the student body, according to Dean of Admission Gary Rold.

Some critics argued that the college’s move could be seen as a tool to bolster the gay population.

The school was not seeking to be a pioneer or to advance any political stance, Rold said.

“That we are first is not of any great consequence,” he said. “We are just trying to collect information for our purposes to help out students.”

The negatives of this vastly outweigh the potential benefits. Not only could the information be improperly used — say to either discriminate against or give preference to LGBT students — but it also suggests sexual orientation is somehow relevant to education. The college admissions process should aim to determine what students would be able to meet the rigorous academic requirements of a university experience. While any number of factors — including family background, ethnicity, religion and state of health — affect a student’s ability to succeed in college, it’s not necessary to know details about those aspects of students’ lives to know whether they have been successful academically in high school and whether they demonstrate a propensity to be able to effectively engage and internalize appropriate course materials. The more I think about it, the more I wonder why schools ask for any of that information. Why not look exclusively at demonstrated academic performance? This goes back to the expansion of the purpose of universities beyond education to some kind of four-year rite of passage to adulthood.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; college; gay; highereducation; homosexualagenda; orientation

1 posted on 03/30/2012 2:04:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
(And what will they do when some students put...
...dogs...
...farm animals...
...children...
...as many coeds as possible...???)

Besides. The homosexual community spent a LOT of time in the 1990s trying to convince the world that what happened in the bedroom was a "privacy" issue...to keep the world at bay from the bedroom...

2 posted on 03/30/2012 2:07:11 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: Colofornian

There used to be a time when Gay relationships were called “The Love that dares not speak its name”.

Now it is the love that won’t Shut the F up !


3 posted on 03/30/2012 2:09:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So much for the right to privacy liberals hold so dear.


4 posted on 03/30/2012 2:15:23 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Soul of the South

A friend of mine who grew up in Red China said over there, if your employer didn’t want you to switch jobs they would put something in your “government personnel file” (which states agencies/employers could see, but you never could) stating that you were a homosexual. Nobody would hire you, and you wouldn’t know why.

I have no idea why anyone would ever want the government to know they were afflicted with homosexuality, and I have no idea how a school could prove that they are in fact “gay”. Eventually claiming this illness will be the only way for white guys to get into school (and eventually, into the workplace). It sounds absurd, but that is already happening with unassimilated minorites and women.


5 posted on 03/30/2012 2:21:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SeekAndFind
The question should be to the administrators,regents and professors....are YOU gay or do YOU support the gay agenda?
6 posted on 03/30/2012 2:23:37 PM PDT by First A Patriot (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God)
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise
Me? Bestiality.

The city is a jungle,
And I'm a beast...

7 posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a direct invasion of Privacy, IMO.


8 posted on 03/30/2012 2:29:21 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

RE: This is a direct invasion of Privacy, IMO.

Welcome to the People’s Republic of California...


9 posted on 03/30/2012 2:41:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: kearnyirish2

RE: I have no idea why anyone would ever want the government to know they were afflicted with homosexuality,

Afflicted? I’m not sure how the use of that word will be taken by gays in this country...

Many consider this something to be ACCEPTED *AND* CELEBRATED ( whether you like it or not ).


10 posted on 03/30/2012 2:44:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Protected class. Lie about it. It worked for Jack Tripper.


11 posted on 03/30/2012 3:02:13 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: SeekAndFind

“Many consider this something to be ACCEPTED *AND* CELEBRATED”

Then let them accept and celebrate it; in my state we had a governor thus afflicted who was no anamoly, and it put a spotlight on the “lifestyle” that many wished hadn’t been exposed.


12 posted on 03/30/2012 3:03:27 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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Until homosexuality is view again as corrupt, perverted and sick, our country will continue to swirl down the drain. It's not the only sympton of decay, but it's a major one.

13 posted on 03/30/2012 4:49:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

remember the time when they used to say it was their private business?
This is all B/S the GOP should never had agreed on civil unions as that was the platform .

Yet again the GOP puts out a RINO, or what they call a moderate, ARF

No matter how many times the MSM , the GOP elitist and Hollywood I will never accept them nor will my kids/


14 posted on 03/30/2012 5:11:35 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: SeekAndFind
"love"?

Have you seen the anonymous stats re: this lifestyle? The break-up stats re: any "committed" relationships...

Truly pathetic.

15 posted on 03/30/2012 7:15:16 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: SeekAndFind

So if you’re straight,you’re screwed? (I don’t mean literally :))


16 posted on 04/02/2012 12:12:24 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s getting more and more difficult for people to deny that this whole homosexual agenda is quite perverse...


17 posted on 10/31/2013 8:05:20 PM PDT by guitarist
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