Posted on 03/24/2012 1:13:22 AM PDT by ebshumidors
The death almost a month ago of 17-year old Trayvon Martin at the hands of appointed neighborhood watch leader George Zimmerman has become a cause célèbre that has even drawn the notice of our President, who notes that if he had a son he would probably look like Trayvon. I’m seeing some defending Zimmerman, and most demanding his head on a platter, and a whole lot of people who don’t understand how the justice system is geared to approach these things. As I’ve said earlier in this blog, in answer to reader query, we don’t know enough about what happened to rush to judgment yet, whether that judgment is justified self-defense, murder, or manslaughter. The police have made it clear that there is evidence that has not yet been made public, and may not be put forth until the Grand Jury examines the case next month. Some issues: The autopsy results, including toxicology screen, have not yet been released. If it turns out that the young man who died was fueled by drugs known to cause violent behavior, could that change our perceptions? That knowledge is not yet in our hands. (Reportedly, Zimmerman was not tested, and police indicate that he showed no signs of drug or alcohol impairment.) My advice to YOU if YOU’RE ever involved in a shooting: request to be taken to a hospital to have a blood sample and toxicology screen taken. A “negative for everything” result will prevent false allegations later that you were drunk or drugged-up when you pulled the trigger.
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Just let it play out in the courts, let justice proceed and STOP CONVICTING THIS GUY
There, fixed it.......
Okay. I’ll defend Zimmerman.
1. He was walking in a public place. Nothing illegal about walking behind someone.
2. He had a legal right to his gun.
3. There were robberies in his neighborhood. Someone who didn’t live there (trespass?) was walking through.
4. He called 911 but without telling the cops where to go when they arrived there’s no suspect if it turns out a robbery took place.
5. He lost sight of TM and headed back to his SUV.
6. TM confronted him and started hitting him.
7. TM broke his nose.
8. Zimmerman asked a witness for help and to call 911.
9. Zimmerman fired his gun in self defense due to threat of immediate bodily harm.
Okay?
What’s your case to prosecute him or even arrest Zimmerman?
Zimmerman can sue you personally for malicious prosecution so your career and wealth are 100% on the line making this decision.
I don't have one, I'm in full support of Zimmerman at this point and always have been. You sure you're directing your comment to the right person?
Yes it does.
Time for a trip to the eye doctor. Those pics look nothing like Martin.
Racist? Race isn't even mentioned in Zulu's post. I'm confused.
You cant get a CHL with a domestic abuse conviction.
I agree.
“The facts, M’am, Nothing but the facts.” Detective Joe Friday.
Alteration of Zimmerman’s photo has already happened. A few media sites have made Zimmerman’s now famous photo black and white...so that he might look most white.
And, we seen the NY Slimes flailing to make up a new moniker: “white Hispanic”. Just image the brainstorming with the editor in greif when they found out “Zimmerman” wasn’t a white jew.
This story isn’t about race baiting, it’s about race chumming.
“There’s a reason drug testing isn’t universally conducted or required for law enforcement officers: false positive results”
Maybe you could tell that to the judges who convict people all the time because of drug tests. Or, folks who are convicted for DUI. Or the folks who get probation revoked because of drug tests etc...
Those FB pictures are not the same kid that was shot in FL.
Ayoob updated that web page this morning and removed the pictures.
He apparently did not have a criminal record, but he had been suspended for tardiness. From USAToday:
“However, he had recently been suspended from school for five days for tardiness, his English teacher, Michelle Kypriss, told the Orlando Sentinel.”
As I said, I’m not accusing either, but merely making the point that whatever either did previously, the law says we don’t consider the past when judging a particular case. What’s most important is what happened, or didn’t happen, on the night in question.
Thank you.
“Bangin on your drums, are you?
That was possibly the most insane, racialist load of spew I have seen on FR. Go stand with the rest of the Panthers.”
Go back to Norway Hardade, Harold Godwinsson kicked your butt.
I’m not black, jerk. I’m white. I took that name because I liked the movie ZULU, admired Zulu courage and thought it sounded cool.
But it has been more than effective in smoking out the rare real racists around like you.
Stuff it. My gun rights are more than the rights of an apparent cowboy with no sense who gunned down some unarmed kid. He wasn’t a sheriff and should have been playing one. No retreat doctrine doesn’t make you wild Bill Hickok.
I think I said STOP DEFENDING THIS JERK. Let the courts handle it.
Are you blind?
If the facts play out as presented, Zimmerman will go down like a smoked Jap Zero, and I don’t want him taking the Castle Doctrine and Right to carry with him.
Adding Chris 37 to the list of racist jerks.
Uhh, no. I said STOP DEFENDING HIM. If he was justified or guilty, leave it to the courts.
As I see it he gunned down an unarmed guy who was not committing a crime or threatening him. But the facts will out.
MEANWHILE if conservatives support a citizen gunning down an unarmed kid was apparently doing nothing, it makes US look bad, it makes the Castle Doctrine look bad, it makes the right to carry look bad and it threatens the Second Amendment.
5. He lost sight of TM and headed back to his SUV.
6. TM confronted him and started hitting him.
7. TM broke his nose.
8. Zimmerman asked a witness for help and to call 911.
9. Zimmerman fired his gun in self defense due to threat of immediate bodily harm.
Okay?
Incredible.
And where did you acquire these “facts”?
Thanks TakerKC. Race should be irrelevant.
Mr Hardraade (can’t even spell apparently, its Hardrada) is the racist and my nom-de-plume smoked him out.
Every time I kind of regret picking that name, incidents like this let me know it was unintentionally a wise choice.
I don’t want my guns sacrificed on the altar of Zimmerman’s stupidity.
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