Posted on 03/21/2012 6:55:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
It's not easy to make Al Sharpton appear relatively restrained in a racially-charged case such as the one involving the death of Trayvon Martin. But Joe Scarborough has managed to pull off the dubious feat. On today's Morning Joe, Scarborough flatly branded the reported shooter, George Zimmerman, a "murderer." It was no slip of the tongue. A couple minutes later, Scarborough declared that Zimmerman had "murdered" Martin.
Sharpton himself never used such language, generally describing Zimmerman as the "shooter," and even imagining, without endorsing, a scenario in which Zimmerman might have been acting in self defense.
View the video here.
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You offer a good defense for the media, maybe they should hire you.
Take a deep breath, Kabar. I’m not choosing sides here.
First, a mall ninja is someone who goes around the public thinking they’re Superman because they have a gun. I’m not saying this guy is one, but his behavior (chasing down someone AFTER being told not to) is similar to someone who might be.
Second, Zimmerman wasn’t supposed to divine that the kid had no weapon, but he was told by the police to stand down. Instead, he followed this kid and shot him. Those are the facts. Had he followed the orders of the police, none of this would’ve happened.
Finally, I don’t think there’s anyone who would argue that the racial epithets aren’t damning, but yes, you are correct, they’re not illegal. They do, however, go to Zimmerman’s state of mind and will likely be used in court to smear him as a racist and/or bring about even bigger charges of hate crime.
It was a tragic accident, yes. However, if Zimmerman had followed the orders of the police and stood down, Trayvon would be playing football and hanging out with his friends today. There are a lot of facts that we just don’t know yet.
And I don’t have information the public doesn’t, I live in Florida and have to hear about this crap every day. You’re hearing it from the national media. Check out the Tampa Bay Times, The Tampa Tribune, BayNews9, and Fox 13 (myfoxtampabay.com) for some more in depth information. The national media is glomming on to it for the race baiting aspect.
You say this is being discussed ad nauseum in the Tampa Bay media? That’s because the issue works for dems. My question is - why is it being posted ad nauseum here at FreeRepublic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080
Circular logic... it’s being posted ad nauseum on FR because it’s being reviewed ad nauseum in the MSM which means it’s being posted ad nauseum on FR... etc.
This is “Zimmerman” he looks Mexican.
Trouble is, the target can't tell the difference until it's too late. Which is why Neighborhood Watch isn't supposed to accost or detain. And if the Neighborhood Watchman follows that rule, anyone who doesn't can be assumed to be a bad guy.
Thank you, we do our best.
You care to explain what was “suspicious” about the kid other than his being black and on foot?
We don't know that Zimmerman followed him nor do we know what precipitated the scuffle that led to both wrestling on the ground. In fact, there is some speculation that it was Zimmerman who was calling for help. Check out my post #84 that brings into question a whole bunch of questions relating to the accuracy of the media reports. We have the 911 tapes. Everything else is conjecture.
Finally, I don’t think there’s anyone who would argue that the racial epithets aren’t damning, but yes, you are correct, they’re not illegal. They do, however, go to Zimmerman’s state of mind and will likely be used in court to smear him as a racist and/or bring about even bigger charges of hate crime.
That may be difficult given what his father has said, including the fact that family members and friends are black.
Check out this link to see why charging him with a hate crime will be very difficult
It was a tragic accident, yes. However, if Zimmerman had followed the orders of the police and stood down, Trayvon would be playing football and hanging out with his friends today. There are a lot of facts that we just don’t know yet.
We agree that we don't know the facts and moreover, we don't know if Zimmerman followed orders or not. Who initiated the confrontation and why was this kid walking through a gated community? Lots of questions. We do know that the police did not arrest or charge him, which says something all by itself.
He is Hispanic
Any sloppy news item that refers to him in either status can not be trusted.
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Yep. He did. Right up until he beat the hell out of Zimmerman.
How about after sitting on you beating the tar out of you, he gets off, walks away, then comes back and starts kicking you in the head?
Would you shoot him then?
Between Zimmerman's statements and witness accounts, this is how Martin ended up with a 9mm slug in his chest.
The MSM is on a witch hunt. Facts be damned. Be damned also those going solely off the MSM's reporting...
You asked for a link to prove my assertion. I can’t vouch for the verity of the source, unfortunately.
Also, wouldn’t it be in the best interest of that neighborhood watch to disavow knowledge of Zimmerman being involved with them? If they can find even the most transient of strings to pull that avails them that opportunity, I’d think they’d be fools not to take it.
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Usually I would be right there with you. Not on this though.
The only criteria that I'm using here are the things that we know...
Martin had not just the right to be there but reason to be there.
Martin was unarmed.
Martin was walking (not running or peeping into windows).
Zimmerman has a history of seeing the boogeyman (based on his history of repeated calls to 911).
Zimmerman was armed.
Zimmerman followed (pursued) Martin even after being admonished about it.
Zimmerman used racial epithets to describe Martin (find the uncensored 911 tape).
Martin was on the phone to his friend telling her that he was being followed (call and time verified by her and his cell records)and he was trying to get away.
One of the two instigated a confrontation.
It turned physical.
Zimmerman killed Martin.
Things we don't know...
How close did Zimmerman get to Martin.
Where was the gun.
Did Zimmerman make any effort to detain Martin (an effort which Martin would have had every reason and right to resist physically).
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How? By saying that, "Oh, he came to all the meetings and rode along with some of us but we never noticed him."???
They already said he wasn’t registered with them, so why the non sequitor? I was simply asking if they COULD disavow knowledge of him, free and clear, wouldn’t it be prudent for them to do so?
Again, not enough information.
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