Posted on 03/12/2012 9:22:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
[According to] a Japanese government study: Almost a third of Japanese boys aged 16-20 and three-fifths of girls say that they have no interest in sex.
The hormones of late adolescence evidently rage in vain against some cultural barrier that makes young Japanese "despise" sexual relations, according to the Japan Family Planning Association's report [1].
It turns out that the ultimate victim of sexual revolution is sex itself.
What makes the Japanese hate sex? The same things that make a growing proportion of Americans hate sex. Joan Sewell's 2007 book I'd Rather Eat Chocolate became the manifesto of American women who don't like sex, hailed at the as "the next wild turn in the female sexual revolution" by Sandra Tsing Loh in The Atlantic Monthly [2].
Pharmaceutical companies are racing to market a pill to revive fading female libido, to no avail: women do not want to be sex objects, and a culture that objectifies women will make them hate sex, as I wrote in this space five years ago [3]. But the problem has gotten worse than I imagined it would.
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After half a century of sexual revolution - otherwise known as objectification - women suffer en masse from the sexual equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome, identification with their tormentors, as a number of popular commentators observe.
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For adolescent girls, the replacement of courtship by "hooking up" with "friends with benefits" is a cruel prospect.
Even though only three out of ten American teenagers aged 13 to 16 are sexually active [7], the options available to adolescent girls are narrowly defined. Adolescent boys are monsters, as anyone who has been one, or known one, can attest...
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Freud's question, "What do women want?," ...
(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...
This author, “Spengler,” has a book out under his real name, Goldman, iirc, that sees the Moslem world headed down the same road, only faster.
Feminists took fun from the hunt, the joy from surrender and the mystery out of seduction. When it’s “wham, bam, thank you ma’am”, it’s boring.
This is an Asian-non-sex thread, so perhaps it didn’t trigger Laz’s antennae.
I’ve often thought that one of the great evils of porn is that is takes away the normal (God-given) sexual response. One becomes desensitized.
Those of us who oppose pornography are labelled as frigid anti-sex types. The truth is just the opposite, as far as I’m concerned.
Porn ruins sex, ultimately.
It’s a betta; they can take a lot of mistreatment before they give up.
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“Its quite possible that Cybersex, rather than other things (nuclear war, global warming, meteors, etc) may prove to be the “extinction event” for human beings as we know them.”
Not for those submitting to God’s Word. . .
Good deal ;)
I look at it from this perspective (perhaps wrongly, who knows). Think back when the net first got ‘big’ in about 94-6ish. As it worked it’s way out of the cities and into small towns, dating sites/online ‘hook-ups’ became the next big fad in America and there was a well publicized rash of men and women dropping everything - families included to escape their lives and ride off into a new sunset with their online prince/cess Valiant. While it moderated somewhat as the novelty wore off, Myspace and now Facebook are cited i like 50% of divorce cases. The early stuff didn’t go away as much as it morphed/evolved.
The result is that it had and has a massive impact on society. A lot of this behavior centers around sex as the prime motivator.
So when I look at the above and think “OK, now (soon) “I” (general term) can avoid all the cash problems, the committment issues, the kids, STD dangers, etcetcetcetc and for $19.95 go on the Home SeXing Channel online and order up Kim Kardashian Monday, 1987 Tawney Kitean on Tuesday, take Wed. off for a Yankees game, Have a Japaneese porn star orgy Thursday, Get Hilliary Friday (just to be a sick Puppy) and party in an online casino via mental cyberlink in Ibiza all weekend, I just do not see how most normal people would not be swept away by that.
Libe like a Billionaire in your 500/month hovel, ‘date’ the top starlets, travel all the exotic places...
Kidding aside, who would not find that attractive and ‘fun’ even for a considerable while, when the real world is what it is and you are not built like Arnnie ‘packeged’ like John Holmes and rich as Soros?
Even in that honeymoon period when its all still new, society would undergo massive reorder...since all the costs/things I described would not be needed in real life.
I really think that like a heroin addict, most would fall to the temptation.
Your points are well taken, and I would add that the revelation at Sinai also included a kind of sexual revolution: in contrast to all the cultures of antiquity, with their pederasty and sacred prostitutes and lecherous gods, the ancient Hebrews were instructed to restrict sexual activity to marriage with the purpose of procreation. It is under-appreciated how radically different the Torah was to the ambient cultures. Orthodox Jews are permitted some forms of contraception but only in the context of a family oriented towards children (and we still have a high fertility rate.
I disagree ... only "most" who would be losers anyway, and how are they going to pay for their "habit," in the absence of marketable skills? (Unless the government insists it be provided free, in which case, look for a proliferation of nights with Hillary for all ... out of "fairness.")
Human beings are oriented to much more. That is why I said pron-fixation and loss of interest in normal relationships are *symptoms* of a society gone wrong. When people are prevented by government or by cultural pressure from engaging in truly fulfilling pursuits, fake sex will become a substitute for a larger number than would "naturally," through personal defect, fall into that. Japan is a "canary in the coal mine," as it were, with a combination of native culture and socio-economic factors ... perhaps even the soy thing ... that are resulting in a distorted humanity.
Video games are a more easily controlled arena.
What a guy!
Yes. The Jewish traditions and culture was the root of Christian culture, and, the Laws of Moses—the most perfect set of laws for creating a relationship with both God and human beings—was enshrined and accepted throughout Western civilization and became the norm and the base of the US Constitution and our legal system. Morality was entrenched in American Law until the Progressives removed morality from law, which destroyed “Just Laws”.
Worldview and culture create societies that either flourish or die—and none is longer lasting than the Orthodox Jewish culture because of the most profound book of Wisdom of all time, which consists of such great insight and understanding of human nature.
Well thats exactly the thing. Today’s opiate of the Obama masses is government largess. The sneaker riots at shopping malls of today house the same people that government can offer this ‘brave new world’ to and they’d snap it up.
Begin Dystopia here..........
Just keep a few worker/slaves around ‘Realworld’ to make the IV bags and run the nuke reactors.
Remember, the sex issue is only part of the online utopia/Matrix. Anything you want, you can have at that level of immersion. An orgasm or a Ferarri or a Bently with 22 in chrome spinners and the latest 9mm and Nikes.
You and I say “Hell no”.
Religious people say “Hell no”.
And then WorldV3.0 comes out offering ‘normal’ folks Whatever their hearts desire. Dead spouses/children live again....Just vote for Candidate X and live heaven on earth!
Who pays? If you are a Matrix style battery, the cost of America and feeding your imobile body while it lasts goes way down. Government can have a lot more for a lot less. Slowly more people are enticed into a virtual world as the real one grows unbearable.
Religious people go on tour of the holy land circa year 0 and stay there. They may know it’s not real, but they live the fantasy as if it were.
Sure, sci fi and probably is. but it ‘can’ happen at that level of tech. As a sci fi fan you know the kinds of dystopia man can envision. That level of tech can make it real.
So instead of marching dissenters into FEMA camps they WILLINGLY live in their own private fantasy. Can you worship God in your mind? Of course you can. People pray silently daily. Now add all the 3d goodness to enhance the experience! Since you KNOW it’s not ‘real” where’s the sin? You are still praying to God, just doing it in a virtual world! With FX and a full cast of Bible characters straight from the pages!
Same for anything else. Hunting trips in the Palolithic, Space warfare, dragons, corporate exec fantasy, sex... It can be sold. People, most IMO have a price and will buy. And as tech continues advancing and more and more ‘give’ online, comfortably cocooned, and totally out of the real world that more and more incentives keep them from returning to....someone hits delete on your brain.
And the remaining people live happily in an Agenda 21 fulfilled paradise ;)
Again...I take this to sci fi extreme for illustration, but think deeper into just what could/would actually happen, how people can change, be bought and manipulated. That tech is both the greatest and most evil think imaginable.
Offered the world itself to bend to their will, most would do it.
Bugs, disease, tooth decay, and no flush toilets ... modern Egypt without even a chance of electricity. "They'll clean it up," you might say, but intelligent people will know it's not real, not even an attempt at accuracy, and so they'll reject it. People are like that. Remember when Captain Picard got into that plot where he lived a whole life as a normal guy in a mellowed-out post-industrial agricultural society, had a wife and children ... but he knew it wasn't his real life, and so he wasn't satisfied.
Not only do people want what's real, but they want what's scarce. Kim Kardashian has a pretty face, in a Levantine way, a voluptuous figure, and long, thick hair. However, so do millions of other no-longer-that-young women. She's desirable because she's a celebrity, and that value is predicated on there being only one of her. When every yutz in a welfare-apt basement can have "her," "she" won't be worth anything, even to them. Even subculture persons are driven by scarcity, or they wouldn't be rioting over shoes they don't need and may not even wear.
I still think your scenarios are going to run into the reality of human nature and turn out differently from what you predict.
Let’s not forget the impact of advanced robotics on warfare, as foretold in this military academy graduation dramatized on The Simpsons...
“The wars of the future will not be fought on the battlefield or at sea. They will be fought in space, or possibly on top of a very tall mountain. In either case, most of the actual fighting will be done by small robots. And as you go forth today remember always your duty is clear: To build and maintain those robots.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_War_of_Lisa_Simpson
Bread and Circuses! The distraction from truly living (facing) life. Yes!
Television (in the home) was the beginning of an artificial reality—removing true emotions from the sphere of living the active life—to the inhumane, passive one where all emotions can be felt—but in vicarious and unnatural ways. It removes human participation and habituates an artificial worldview.
TV can define and form perceptions, esp. if children consume it-—of beauty in women and men—of Right and Wrong—where now we have dysfunction and absurdity being promoted to children 24/7—uncontrolled as the obscenity laws of the 50’s and early 60’s have been completely flipped on their heads—TV now promotes lifestyles and Ethics which actually destroy all relationships.
This artificial emotional roller coaster-—depletes and stifles the person when having to deal with real people and real situations. It is not nearly as fun and entertaining—and it takes no effort or work, yet (they think) presents the same amount of pleasure and happiness than mere imperfect humans will or can. And God has been ripped out of the soul, with the abyss being filled with worthless materialism and life has absolutely no meaning and hope.
I fear you are wrong. Many man are choosing the porn route now. How many would do it if they had their own robot?
David Goldman, aka “Spengler” who writes for the Asian Times, is also the Editor of First Things, a magazine begun by Fr. Richard John Neuhaus. I’ve followed his columns for years, Mrs. Tax.
I find it sort of ironic that you use a fictional character in a fictional setting as illustration of what you believe actual human nature to entail. Is that a sign of not realizing how deeply into the herd/herded we have become.
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