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To: Antoninus
I don't take constitutional guidance from Holland, thanks very much.

Your invideous analogy falls apart immediately. Crimes like rape and theft directly harm others; smoking or using poison, whether it's marijuana, crack or alcohol does not. Collateral damage can be dealt with within the legal system much as we do today with alcohol. The real gainers from prohibition are the fascists on the left who get to unconstitutionally expand government authority and power (a point you continue to ignore) and organized crime. Prohibition does not measurably affect usage; it only increases the cost.

99 posted on 03/09/2012 8:24:25 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: muir_redwoods
Your invideous analogy falls apart immediately. Crimes like rape and theft directly harm others; smoking or using poison, whether it's marijuana, crack or alcohol does not. Collateral damage can be dealt with within the legal system much as we do today with alcohol.

That is a libertarian attitude and has little or nothing to do with real life. You do not have a God given right to do harm to yourself and laws may legitimately be put forward and enforced which prevent such acts in accordance with the cultural norms of our civilization.

Do you consider US a fascist state because cocaine is illegal?

Prohibition does not measurably affect usage; it only increases the cost.

...which affects usage. When something is more expensive, people are much less likely to purchase it. Nice job refuting your own argument.

And guess what? Legalizing drugs will necessarily expand the government because government institutions (and those receiving funds from the government) will be the ones who have to deal with the massive increase in societal problems stemming from increased drug use. And with the government-run healthcare trajectory we're on, this will only get worse.

Tell you what. Let's have this conversation again when we live in a country where taxpayer money is not forcibly extracted from some to pay for the irresponsibility of others. Until then, you're just expanding the power of the "fascists on the left" with this kind of nonsense.
101 posted on 03/09/2012 10:48:42 AM PST by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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