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MSP: Law allows some to carry guns in schools(MI)
wzzm13.com ^ | 1 March, 2012 | Matt Campbell

Posted on 03/04/2012 6:15:49 AM PST by marktwain

GRAND RAPIDS (WZZM) -- Michigan State Police say a man who walked into a Grand Rapids school with a gun was protected by state law.

Around noon Tuesday, the man walked into the polling place at Aberdeen Elementary School with a gun clearly visible in his holster. The man told administrators he had a concealed carry permit, and was trying to stand up for his legal right to carry a gun on election day.

Previous Coverage - GRPS: Voter may be charged for bringing gun to school

School leaders expect the man to face a misdemeanor charge, but that may never happen.

Sgt. Aimee Maikee with the Michigan State Police says someone with a valid concealed weapons license can carry a visible, holstered gun into schools, daycare centers, banks, churches, bars and sports arenas.

Sgt. Maikee says no one is allowed to carry weapons into the sterile part of a commercial airport, into a courthouse, or onto private property without the owner's approval.

"There are some people that think that individual should never -- even if it's not illegal under michigan law -- that people shouldn't carry a firearm into a school," says Sgt. Maikee. "There are other people that believe just as strongly the other way, that it's their right to carry gun and they do it for safety reasons."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; mi; michigan; opencarry; school
Nice to see that his plain reading of the law was vindicated.
1 posted on 03/04/2012 6:15:50 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

You never can tell any more whether or not you may face quasi-uniformed militants with clubs outside a polling place. now that Obama and Holder have made that legal by not charging those who have dont it.

I don’t blame him for carrying a weapon. It’s self-defense.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 6:20:30 AM PST by Venturer
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3 posted on 03/04/2012 6:21:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Venturer

I printed the article, and will be showing this to all the school workers I see on a weekly basis. This will open their eyes....... I have my CCW in Michigan here and go to a bunch of schools to do business. I won’t ever open carry, unless it’s on my own property.


4 posted on 03/04/2012 6:26:10 AM PST by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: marktwain
There was a big discussion about this incident on one of my gun boards, The High Road, and as wierd as it sounds, the way the state and federal laws are written, if you have a Concealed Pistol License in Michigan, you cannot concealed carry on school grounds, but you can open carry.
5 posted on 03/04/2012 6:27:53 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sig229

Kinda funny if you think about it. Its illegal to smoke a cigarette on school grounds but you can carry a gun. LOL


6 posted on 03/04/2012 6:30:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Carrying a gun is much more healthy than smoking a cigarette.


7 posted on 03/04/2012 7:01:37 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

True dat, unless you try smoking the gun.


8 posted on 03/04/2012 7:03:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh, I do that too! But trying to quit. Down to 3 smokes a day!


9 posted on 03/04/2012 7:24:45 AM PST by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; MileHi; glock rocks; SLB; Lurker; Deaf Smith; TEXASPROUD; hiredhand

Doesn’t that pesky POS federal law trump the state laws, ...all of em ?

Federal Gun Free School Zones Act of 1995

Still fighting that damn thang in congress I believe. As in Texas I can carry around a school, but not inside the school due the states definition of premises. One can walk their kids up to the door , open it and let em inside but when or if I cross the threshold I violate state law for here in Texas.

But the damn Federal GFSZ Act of 95 trumps even that local rule . Should a alphabet agency FLEA want to push the issue..... I get slammed for the 1000ft rule.

Has Michigan in some form found a way around that Federale Cow Crap ??

Just asking...... Stay safe !!


10 posted on 03/04/2012 9:20:54 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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The federal law has an exemption for people with a permit from the state.
11 posted on 03/04/2012 9:43:41 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I believe ya but would like a link if ya have one handy so I can pursue such a reference to use locally. I’ll go search myself meanwhile....grateful.

is that for every state ??

Just asking .....:o)

Thanks !


12 posted on 03/04/2012 10:06:08 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: marktwain

I think I found such here..... a good example of the exemption. (albeit a VA permit question, a good explanation of the rule by ATF.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Batfe2002letter_gfsza1995_ccw.pdf

Key to the exemption seems to be if the permit issued requires a “background check” before issued. for those states that do not do a background check before issue or open carry seems that the GFSZA still may be a “gotcha” in the gazillion BS laws on the books......

Thanks for yer time !

Stay safe !


13 posted on 03/04/2012 10:20:15 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Should a alphabet agency FLEA want to push the issue..... I get slammed for the 1000ft rule.

If the towns, cities, counties or states could collect the fines there would be road blocks the day before the opening of deer season.

14 posted on 03/04/2012 11:12:09 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: TYVets

>>Should a alphabet agency FLEA want to push the issue..... I get slammed for the 1000ft rule.
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>If the towns, cities, counties or states could collect the fines there would be road blocks the day before the opening of deer season.

Ho boy; I don’t see that one living very long in courts. “Right to Travel” and “Right to Keep and Bear Arms” all in one.


15 posted on 03/05/2012 2:21:48 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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If the towns, cities, counties or states could collect ....

The key word here is " IF "

16 posted on 03/06/2012 6:09:59 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: marktwain

Does this apply to daycare too?


17 posted on 03/07/2012 4:09:11 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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Does this apply to daycare too?

My read is that it would not apply to private daycare. If the daycare were in a school, then it would apply.

I am not a lawyer, and I do not play one on TV.

18 posted on 03/07/2012 5:59:37 PM PST by marktwain
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