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Heartache: GM Halts Production of Chevy Volt, Lays Off 1,300 Workers…
weasel zippers ^ | 3/2/12 | zip

Posted on 03/02/2012 1:04:42 PM PST by Nachum

And in the same week Obama vows buy one, Christmas comes early this year.

(DFP) — General Motors has told 1,300 employees at its Detroit Hamtramck that they will be temporarily laid off for five weeks as the company halts production of the Chevrolet Volt and its European counterpart, the Opel Ampera.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chevy; gm; schadenfreude; volt; workers
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To: Pollster1
Any bad news for that corrupt company is worth celebrating.

Appreciate the support.

Watching my 42 year pension will go down the tubes along with Social Security and Medicare.

Thank God my kids are prosperous, maybe they'll take me in.

81 posted on 03/02/2012 4:35:45 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: nascarnation
Appreciate the support. Watching my 42 year pension will go down the tubes along with Social Security and Medicare. Thank God my kids are prosperous, maybe they'll take me in.

When GM defaulted on their bondholders and paid the UAW instead, they crossed a clear moral line. Besides being a violation of contract law and bankruptcy law, that was unforgivably corrupt, and I will boycott the company forever. As for individual pensions, I assume that the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation would take care of them (at taxpayer expense but at least it's ethical unlike the Bailout). GM is dead to me.

82 posted on 03/02/2012 4:42:42 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: bunkerhill7
The Volt not Electrifying?? I am shocked!

HAHAHAHAHA!

83 posted on 03/02/2012 4:45:35 PM PST by cardinal4 (Bolton/Arpaio 2012 "Kick the UN across the border!")
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To: Pollster1

I can’t argue with any of your points.

But none of this was GM’s idea.

The Baraqqis (Steve “the rat” Rattner) came in, fired mgmt, and took over the company orchestrating the bankruptcy.

Folks at GM were just spectators at that point.

All those years I had to put up with those UAW b@stards and now they just laugh at me.


84 posted on 03/02/2012 4:55:28 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Pollster1
When GM defaulted on their bondholders and paid the UAW instead, they crossed a clear moral line. Besides being a violation of contract law and bankruptcy law, that was unforgivably corrupt

Why aren't there tons of class action and individual lawsuits pending against the UAW and others. Why couldn't they be financially liquidated like the KKK was?

85 posted on 03/02/2012 4:57:32 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: BilLies
Yes I have here in Mi.

Better yet, in the social circles I move in I have met 2 Volt people one and Engr, and I am not sure what she does but likes to talk anti Ford Eco-Boost Smack. I don't have the heart to tell her why GM's DI don't work, funny what you overhear eating eggs and bacon and with a enough engineering to be dangerous can figure it out yourself...

Now the Engr was one of us and we had some great conversations about it.. I need to do a seperate post about that...

86 posted on 03/02/2012 5:02:03 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Nachum
The question begs, is their more to this?

Engrg problem that they need to shut the line down for? Something that is perculating up through the dealerships? If so they are keeping it hush....

87 posted on 03/02/2012 5:22:55 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: All

I hope GM crashes and burns and go out of business.


88 posted on 03/02/2012 6:26:26 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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To: Nachum

How shocking. Not.


89 posted on 03/02/2012 6:40:06 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Don Corleone

Nah, there will still be several to choose from in January, 2013.


90 posted on 03/02/2012 7:33:46 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Why aren’t there tons of class action and individual lawsuits pending against the UAW and others...”

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Something I too, will never understand....


91 posted on 03/02/2012 7:36:40 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; EyeGuy
"...Why aren't there tons of class action and individual lawsuits pending against the UAW and others..."

This really hurts me to finally admit this: It is because the Constitution means nothing, The Law means nothing, A Contract means nothing, and worst of all, A Man's Word means nothing.

This does not apply to individuals as a blanket statement, since there are still plenty of people who stand by what they say, and people who expect that from them.

But from national, legal and cultural levels, I believe it is true to a large part.

The Constitution is disregarded and dismissed, and there are no ramifications for those who ignore it.

This pained me in ways I can't put into words, when I mused on the oaths many of us have taken in the past:

"I, rlmorel, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Just dwell on that. How ridiculous does that sound now, knowing people like Ted Kennedy, Barack Obama and so many others have taken similar oaths, internally smirking as they did?

God, I hate liberalism.

92 posted on 03/02/2012 8:02:01 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; EyeGuy

On the bright side, in a very small spark in my brain, I still believe this may be reversed.

We may go through tough times, even bloody times to get back there, but I think we can still get back.

We just have to appreciate it and not take it for granted, and maybe people will just have to reach a level at which they can feel that sentiment.

That is the optimist in me speaking, and that sounds grim just reading it.


93 posted on 03/02/2012 8:09:18 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: rlmorel

With God, there is ALWAYS hope.

“Behold! I make all things new.”


94 posted on 03/02/2012 8:13:31 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: EyeGuy

You are correct. And His hope isn’t the same “Hope” being pushed by that charlatan in the White House.


95 posted on 03/02/2012 10:49:26 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Why aren't there tons of class action and individual lawsuits pending against the UAW and others. Why couldn't they be financially liquidated like the KKK was?

The judge supervising the reorganization approved allocating the assets of the "New" GM so that the UAW and their Canadian counterpart got 17.5% of the new company, while the unsecured bondholders of of GM got 10%, even though GM owed the bondholders almost triple what they owed the UAW. As senior creditors, the bondholders should under centuries of law have been paid in full before the UAW got even one dollar. While there is usually a negotiation process (priced into the interest rate demanded by bond purchasers) that gives "stakeholders" such as UAW a symbolic payment, there has never before been a case outside third world countries in which the bondholders received far less than junior claimants on company assets.

I will never again buy a GM product because of that corruption, nor will I buy corporate bonds from a company with a union or other politically connected interest groups. The rules of the game have changed from written contract law to a situation in which those with connections win. I don't play games that have no rules.

I was thoroughly disappointed in Bush when he approved TARP and wasted so many billions in taxpayer dollars, but at least that was within the law (other than the detail that it was outside the enumerated powers of the Constitution). Obama stiffing the GM bondholders was even worse, because it was a government sponsored corrupt action that harmed individual victims, unlike TARP where the taxpayers in general were the victims.

96 posted on 03/03/2012 5:47:55 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1
His diminution of Contract Law with the GM non-bankrupcy bankruptcy, is the cornerstone of everything he has done since then.

Within Obamacare look at the Contracts voided:

* Student Loans, now a Gov't Only Option, unsecured available with a Bank, but with Dodd Frank really?
* HSA's and MSA's go away, those Contracts with not fit the mandated minimum policy..
* High Deductible Plans like McDonald's that all the "waivers" were about, now Illegal or soon to be.
* Student Medical Insurance Policies gone, now under your Parents, a cost shifting...
* And the mother of them all, the HHS Mandate to the Catholic Churches, forcing them to buy an Insurance Contract or Self Insure but comply with a mandate that violates their Conscious.

97 posted on 03/03/2012 6:14:44 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: jiggyboy

OOOOO. That’s a big one that I forgot.


98 posted on 03/03/2012 6:23:24 AM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Pollster1

There was, in fact, one previous case - Chrysler.


99 posted on 03/03/2012 6:38:29 AM PST by patton (bad math joke omitted - this space for rent)
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To: patton
There was, in fact, one previous case - Chrysler.

I stand corrected. I see them as near-simultaneous miscarriages of justice, and I will be boycotting both companies forever because of the shocking corruption of the process, but I should have been more precise.

100 posted on 03/03/2012 6:47:46 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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