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Mortality from Coronary Heart Disease in Subjects with Type 2 Diabetes and in Nondiabetic Subjects with and without Prior Myocardial Infarction

Our data suggest that diabetic patients without previous myocardial infarction have as high a risk of myocardial infarction as nondiabetic patients with previous myocardial infarction.

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1 posted on 02/29/2012 11:44:14 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Dr. Steven Nissen has been shilling for statins and the drug company’s for a decade.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 11:49:17 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: neverdem

“The value of statins in preventing heart disease has been clearly established,” said Dr. Amy G. Egan, deputy director for safety in the F.D.A.’s division of metabolism and endocrinology products. “Their benefit is indisputable, but they need to be taken with care and knowledge of their side effects.”

Sounds a LOT like the Global Warming consensus statement doesn’t it.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 11:50:06 AM PST by Cyman
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To: neverdem

Those who regularly go to the doctor risk becoming someone’s chemistry experiment.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 11:53:01 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: neverdem

Took it for 15 years, found out three weeks ago I am highly allergic to statins....AND ace inhibitors!


5 posted on 02/29/2012 11:53:25 AM PST by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: neverdem

to be sure, those drugs serve a very good purpose but, they will cause cramping and mess with your head.

If you are over 75 it would be a good idea to consider the risk of falling, which happens frequently to those on ipitor, Zocor, Crestor.

My friend, who just passed away at 101 quit taking Crestor and any other cholesteral reducing drugs as they made her a little touched in the head, caused dizziness and severe pain in her quadriceps.

She had lived with a cholesterol count of 300 for who knows how many years before we placed her on it 5 years ago.

So it was decided “Heck, some people are just plain going to make it” and she dropped the drug.

She died of old age.

She lived well and passed into God’s loving arms well.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 11:54:48 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

What’s the total count goal for cholesterol now - 95?

They keep dropping the acceptable total cholesterol numbers - pretty soon the percentage of people prescribed statins will be the same amount of people paying income taxes in this country....


8 posted on 02/29/2012 11:56:09 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: neverdem
"The value of statins in preventing heart disease has been clearly established,” said Dr. Amy G. Egan,"

The value of Vitamin B3 (nicotinic acid) in preventing heart disease has been clearly established,” said Freeper Matthew Fuller.

9 posted on 02/29/2012 11:56:14 AM PST by matthew fuller (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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To: neverdem; Impy; Perdogg; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
My Mother can't raise her arms without pain. That started when she started taking these garbage “medications”. She also has to go for blood work every 4-6 months...and her initial “high” cholesterol was 230.

I've actually gotten into screaming matches with her telling her these statin medications are garbage (I'm a biochemist, so I do know a bit about this).

Change your diet and walk 3-4 times a week. It works and you're not filling your body with garbage or lining the pockets of pharma companies that push this sh*t.

11 posted on 02/29/2012 12:00:08 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: neverdem

Memory deficits? YESSS!! The excuse I’ve been looking for! “Hon, I really meant to take out the trash/clean the garage/wash your car/pick up veggies on the way home - it’s this darn lipitor!”

I’m not betting the farm on it...


13 posted on 02/29/2012 12:04:27 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: austinmark; FreedomCalls; IslandJeff; JRochelle; MarMema; Txsleuth; Newtoidaho; texas booster; ...
FReepmail me if you want on or off the diabetes ping list.

Not all type II diabetics are the same, but with high blood pressure, central obesity, low HDL cholesterol and high triglycerides you have Syndrome X, also known as metabolic syndrome. Diets restricted in carbohydrate intake have benefited many with metabolic syndrome. If you enter Volek JS, Feinman RD into PubMed's query box, then you'll do an authors' search on two writers who have written at least 10 articles showing the benefit of carbohydrate restriction.

14 posted on 02/29/2012 12:06:59 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Results..
1..Attorneys preparing ads for class actions.
2..Big Pharmas going in to defense mode.
3..Sale of Red Yeast Rice skyrocket. A safe natural statin.
4.. Incidence of Altzheimers slowly reduces as use of statins declines.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 12:08:18 PM PST by codder too
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To: neverdem

As far as anecdotal evidence goes ALL of the males in my immediate family have had bad side-effects from Statins. My father had it worst with permanent leg muscle damage.

On the other hand I can also report that since he started to take Anatabloc, (an over the counter nutraceutical), his leg pains have nearly gone away. As for myself the Anatabloc is showing good results one of which is the “trigger finger” effect I had in both hands has gone away.


23 posted on 02/29/2012 12:38:11 PM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: neverdem

With some of the side effects you can experience, I think sometimes it would be better to not take the pills.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 1:27:44 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: neverdem
My wife was just diagnosed with high cholesterol. A tad over 220....She told her doctor there was NO WAY she was taking a Statin...

He changed her diet and take some fish oil and left it at that...

31 posted on 02/29/2012 3:12:52 PM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: neverdem

I would like to add that daily prolonged and repetitive exercise in conjunction of watching what you eat will beat most any medication. You may want to note that the accent is on prolonged (1/2 to 1 hr preferably) and repetitive .This may be bicycling, walking, running, swimming, playing basket ball, almost anything what keeps the body in continuous motion for a prolonged period of time. Needless to say, stay within recommended weight limitations......if you follow these recommendations it will allow you to spend more time in a nursing home!


35 posted on 03/01/2012 12:02:57 AM PST by saintgermaine
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