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To: neverdem

What’s the total count goal for cholesterol now - 95?

They keep dropping the acceptable total cholesterol numbers - pretty soon the percentage of people prescribed statins will be the same amount of people paying income taxes in this country....


8 posted on 02/29/2012 11:56:09 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: libertarian27

Sounds like the Nazi EPA if you ever get in compliance they lower the number.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 12:09:12 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: libertarian27
What’s the total count goal for cholesterol now - 95?

The new level is probably the most insidious of all pronouncements. The "finding" was done by a non-medical committee. The logic was "lower" must be better. They completely ignored the TG/HDL Ratio. This also applies to men:

The TG/HDL Cholesterol Ratio Predicts All Cause Mortality in Women With Suspected Myocardial Ischemia A Report from the Women’s Ischemia Syndrome Evaluation (WISE)

High Ratio of Triglycerides to HDL-Cholesterol Predicts Extensive Coronary Disease

Keep the ratio at 2 or below and you will improve your risk factors. You can do this by going on a very low carb (VLC) diet and taking niacin. This reduces your triglyceride levels dramatically.

The original cholesterol studies were probably the greatest scam in medical history. The "life saved" numbers were massaged from the data when after seven years of study there was no evidence that the overall death rate was lowered. The weasel words that came out of the NIH were "relative" lives saved. The statistics were massaged to the point where a Kobe cow would be envious.
18 posted on 02/29/2012 12:16:42 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: libertarian27
They (FDA and organizations of doctors like the AMA) keep lowering the numbers until most need it...doing the same with high blood pressure..

when I was in nursing 140/90 was borderline, now its down to 130/80-- 120/60 is the norm....and hbp changes during the day depending on what you are doing....its not stable all the time.

.when my doctor didn't like my b/p 132/80 he said to consider medication...I reminded him I was a nurse and for me borderline will always be 140/90 for an extended period. When I left his office stopped at the drug store and bought a b/p cuff and keep a month long journal, taken several times a day and only 2 times did diastolic go to 90 and an hour later it was back in the 70’s...he had me bring in my cuff to test against his office cuff and it was right on with his....we didn't talk b/p any more.....I had to go off statins due to severe muscle weakness, but do have pretty high cholesterol...told him if I have to choose between the side effects and high cholesterol, high cholesterol wins.

nurses make tough patients but he always checks for generics when I need medication cause he knows I pay for my own prescription...still wouldn't trade him as primary doctor to any others... Its hard breaking in a new doctor.....

PS the statins did bring down my cholesterol quite a bit. Also tried Welcor and non statin cholesterol lowering drug. The major side effect was constitupation, since I have IBS that was not a problem, but 4 months into it, the muscle weakness and range of motion in the L shoulder was pretty bad and had to stop again....when you stoop down to get something off the bottom of the grocery shelf and cannot stand up without pulling yourself up by the shelves and cannot life a bag of dog food out of the cart, its time to stop....

22 posted on 02/29/2012 12:30:59 PM PST by goat granny
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