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Obama: "Son of Islam"?
stonegateinstitute.org ^ | 27FEB12 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 02/27/2012 1:28:03 PM PST by bayouranger

According to Sharia law, if one's father is Muslim, one automatically becomes Muslim. "Most of the Muslims I know (me included) can't seem to accept that Obama is not a Muslim."

Many in the media are indignant with Reverend Franklin Graham, head of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Invited on "Morning Joe" last Tuesday to discuss Christian persecution, Graham was asked whether he thought President Barack Obama was Christian or not. Although Graham concluded that Obama "has said he is a Christian, so I just have to assume that he is," he appeared skeptical, suggesting Obama's policies disagreed with Christian principles, thus earning the full ire of much of the fourth estate.

Graham, however, was absolutely right to say that, "under Islamic law, the Muslim world sees Barack Obama as a Muslim, as a son of Islam": according to Sharia law [Islamic religious law, which regulates all parts of a Muslim's life], if one's father is Muslim, one automatically becomes Muslim. The reason behind last week's church attack in Egypt, when thousands of Muslims tried to torch a church and kill its pastor, is that a Christian girl fled from her father after he converted to Islam: she did not want to be Muslim, and was rumored to be hiding in the church. This is not the first time in recent months that churches have been attacked on similar rumors.

In short, Sharia law's position is that anyone born to a Muslim father is a Muslim—with the death penalty should they seek to apostatize: the 34-year-old Iranian pastor sentenced to death simply for converting to Christianity is just the most visible example.

Because of this automatic passage of religion from father to son, and because Obama attended a madrassa (Muslim religious school during his youth in Indonesia), many Muslims are convinced that Obama is a "secret" Muslim. In a Forbes article, "My Muslim President Obama: Why members of the faith see him as one of the flock ," writer Asma Gull Hasan elaborates:

[S]ince Election Day, I have been part of more and more conversations with Muslims in which it was either offhandedly agreed that Obama is Muslim or enthusiastically blurted out. In commenting on our new president, "I have to support my fellow Muslim brother," would slip out of my mouth before I had a chance to think twice. "Well, I know he's not really Muslim," I would quickly add. But if the person I was talking to was Muslim, they would say, "yes he is." …. Most of the Muslims I know (me included) can't seem to accept that Obama is not Muslim. Of the few Muslims I polled who said that Obama is not Muslim, even they conceded that he had ties to Islam…. The rationalistic, Western side of me knows that Obama has denied being Muslim, that his father was non-practicing, that he doesn't attend a mosque. Many Muslims simply say back, "my father's not a strict Muslim either, and I haven't been to a mosque in years." Obama even told The New York Times he could recite the adhan, the Islamic call to prayer, which the vast majority of Muslims, I would guess, do not know well enough to recite.

Read the entire article, which is more eye-opening than the author probably intended.

Another reason many Muslims believe Obama is a Muslim (and a reason Ms. Hasan's article understandably omits) is that, under the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya [dissimulation], Muslims are permitted—in certain contexts, and even encouraged—to deny being Muslim, if so doing secures them or Islam an advantage. Accordingly, Islamic history is full of stories of Muslims denying and publicly cursing Islam, and even pretending to be Christian, whenever there was a strategic advantage.

In other words, if an American president were a secret Muslim, and if he were lying about it, and even if he were secretly working to subvert the U.S. to Islam's advantage —not only would taqiyya, or dissimulation, be justified by Islam's doctrines of loyalty and deception, but it would have ample precedents, stretching back to the dawn of Islam. Muhammad, for example, commanded a convert from an adversarial tribe to conceal his new Muslim identity and go back to his tribe—which he cajoled with "You are my stock and my family, the dearest of men to me"—only to betray them to Islam's invading armies.

Graham further upset certain sensitivities by saying, "All I know is under Obama, President Obama, the Muslims of the world, he seems to be more concerned about them than the Christians that are being murdered in the Muslim countries," adding that "Islam has gotten a free pass under Obama."

Yet who can deny this? Whether by expunging any reference to Islam in U.S. security documents, or enabling Muslim persecution of Christians, or ordering NASA to make Muslims "feel good" about themselves, or bowing to the anti-Christian Saudi king—the President has made his partiality for Islam very clear: under Obama, Islam is undoubtedly getting a "free pass."

What Graham's critics seem not to understand is when it comes to Obama's religious identity, Graham probably has in mind Jesus' dictum: "By their fruits shall ye know them"—that is, pro-Islamic actions speak louder than Christian words.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; War on Terror
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1 posted on 02/27/2012 1:28:15 PM PST by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger

He’s a son of a something alright.


2 posted on 02/27/2012 1:30:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bayouranger

If 0bama is NOT considered a Muslim by Muslims wouldn’t they be committed to killing him as an apostate?


3 posted on 02/27/2012 1:31:49 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: bayouranger
This was a point I raised a long time ago - it isn't nearly as relevant what Øbongo claims about his faith - to most of the islamic world he is a muzzie, always has been, and always will be.

The fact that he is an apostate by denying it only inflames an already insane bunch of cretins and increases the possibility of violence against Americans as a result.

4 posted on 02/27/2012 1:38:48 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MestaMachine; LucyT; melancholy; Brown Deer; null and void

We knew this, but interesting FYI


5 posted on 02/27/2012 1:39:51 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

True—they would kill him-—so he must be on a mission of taking over the USA—where as a Muslim—you can lie, disregard the regulations, do anything to convert or take over and/or destroy the USA and all their military power and economic system. He is either a Marxist or a Muslim—either one is determined to destroy this nation and the morality (Judeo/Christian God) of the masses.


6 posted on 02/27/2012 1:39:51 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: bayouranger

‘he appeared skeptical, suggesting Obama’s policies disagreed with Christian’—————

Please Muslim(who wrote the article) explain how- appearing skeptical, ‘suggests’ Obama’s ‘policies’ disagreed with Christian....???

More Muslim propaganda....Ibrahim, you ain’t as good at it as Obama is.


7 posted on 02/27/2012 1:39:56 PM PST by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: cripplecreek

hahahaha!


8 posted on 02/27/2012 1:40:09 PM PST by Irenic
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To: bayouranger

Yet, he is urging churches to vote for him. “Not only is Obama playing the race card in an attempt to pressure black Americans into voting for him, he is also violating the separation between church and state. In the video promo for the campaign, Obama urges black people to pressure churches into supporting his administration by getting his message out via “the faith community”. He also calls on voters to become “congregation captains”.

The video and the rest of the article can be seen at http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-plays-race-card-calls-on-churches-to-support-campaign.html


9 posted on 02/27/2012 1:40:43 PM PST by Humal
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To: bayouranger
under the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya [dissimulation], Muslims are permitted—in certain contexts, and even encouraged—to deny being Muslim, if so doing secures them or Islam an advantage.

Just like in Marxism and other forms of evil, Moslims believe that the ends justify the means.

10 posted on 02/27/2012 1:42:29 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Rushmore Rocks; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


This was a point I raised a long time ago - it isn't nearly as relevant what Øbongo claims about his faith - to most of the islamic world he is a muzzie, always has been, and always will be.

We knew this, but interesting FYI

11 posted on 02/27/2012 1:43:45 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Ya gots to hope so, just wait til he’s out of office ya damn moosies, we don’t need him becoming a martyr


12 posted on 02/27/2012 1:44:39 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: bayouranger

Obama loves his country.... just not ours.


13 posted on 02/27/2012 1:44:39 PM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: cripplecreek

Son of Perdition, perhaps.

What he is is anti-Christian. Muslims just happen to be on the same side in that conflict.


14 posted on 02/27/2012 1:44:51 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton; rockrr

Around my parts, the koranimals consider him to be a “holy” man.


15 posted on 02/27/2012 1:52:25 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Humal

IBD had an article last week on Black Liberation Theology.
It’s simply anti-white Marxism dressed up in Christianese.

So, when a reference is made to “black churches”, the question must be asked - are these Christian churches or BLT “churches”?


16 posted on 02/27/2012 2:01:10 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Joe Boucher

I can just see it, some terrorist blows himself up near 0bama after yelling “Allah Akbar”,

and the MSM, Harry Reid, and Nanzi Pelozi will jump in front of a camera and blame Santorum or Palin for it.


17 posted on 02/27/2012 2:03:29 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: bayouranger

Hi IS a muslime.


20 posted on 02/27/2012 2:21:35 PM PST by Fireone (Gingrich/West 2012. (did I mention FUBO?))
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