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Yikes, gas prices climb again (through the roof)
Orange County Register (CA) ^ | February 25, 2012 | MARLA JO FISHER

Posted on 02/25/2012 6:12:30 PM PST by Deo volente

Gas prices climbed higher Saturday, continuing to march ever-closer to the all-time average local high of $4.60 per gallon set in 2008.

Jitters over the standoff in Iran's nuclear program have led to surging oil prices and unstable markets worldwide. Locally, a big refinery fire also hiked prices for motorists, with no end in sight.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; energy; gasprices
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To: boop

“Sorry Road Glide, I was talking passenger trains. But have you ever seen even a freight train run that fast? Not happening in any urban area I’ve lived in. They slow WAY down. I’ve rode Amtrak my entire life and the fastest I ever saw them go was roughly 70. And we’re talking the North Dakota highline where the stops are at around 60 miles. They slow down at even the smallest one stoplight crossings.
My grandpa was a lifer brakeman for Burlington Northern, later full conductor for Amtrak. Never heard of 125 mph, ever.
Not saying wrong, just never seen it, or heard of it.”

The maximum speed for passenger trains in non-cab-signalled territory is 79mph.
If there are cab signals, the speeds can be faster.

That’s why (assuming the trains you rode were in non-cab-signal territory), the fastest speed you went -was- probably in the “seventies”.

Santa Fe used to run their fastest trail-van freights at around 80. Not sure if they still do, and this certainly wasn’t in the middle of cities. Sometimes they’ll slow down in urban areas is that the track isn’t straight enough to support higher speeds. Other trains may have setoffs/pickups in town.

Trains in the Northeast Corridor have been running at 125 for decades between Washington DC and New York City. Heck, they tried running 160 for a while in the days of the first “Metroliners”, and that was on old “stick rail”. I never did it, but I heard it was a rough and scary ride, and it wasn’t long before they dropped the speeds back to around 125.

When it was still a diesel-powered service between New Haven and Boston, the maximum speed was 100 in places. In 2001, when they electrified that route, the speeds were raised to 125 for locomotive-hauled trains (electric engines) and up to 150 in a few places for the Acela highspeed trainsets.

If you’re westbound heading towards New York, as soon as you turn off the Metro-North New Haven line at New Rochelle onto Amtrak territory, the speed jumps to 100mph. You cross the city line and it’s 100 to Pelham Bay right within NY city limits (though that area, near Orchard Beach, is lightly-populated).

Across the Bay, the speed is 70mph right through the Bronx, as you close in on Manhattan.

But, for a short distance, the timetable speed is 100mph right in New York City!


101 posted on 02/26/2012 8:39:18 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

But, like the other poster mentioned, there are speed limits that you questioned like youi never heard about them. The other poster was correct in the original post, and you were wrong to question it. I don’t care what you did or how long you did it. You may know East coast, but apparently not the rest of the country.


102 posted on 02/26/2012 10:48:27 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Deo volente
$4.60 per gallon. Pfftt...that's for pikers. I paid $22.60 per gallon yesterday:

Hopefully this ethanol-free gas won't rot away the rubber lines in my 2-stroke equipment.

103 posted on 02/26/2012 12:33:45 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: autumnraine
Funny how politician after politician keeps talking about the necessity to drill for more oil in the U.S., be it in Alaska or in the Gulf of Mexico or on public lands—considering that America has been breaking records this year for exports of petroleum.

That is only refined exports, not oil.

We still import more oil than we produce ourselves.

Only when you look at the products downstream of the refineries do we get a net exports.

But when you include crude oil, the feedstock needed to run our refineries, you see a greatly different picture.

When you combine our reduced demand with the increased refinery output due to expansions, we have a surplus of refined products. But we still have a large deficit of input into those refineries due to lack of domestic oil production.

104 posted on 02/27/2012 6:31:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Demand didn’t decline that much with the first wave of the financial crisis in 08 - 09.

At that time, many were still working. Not to many of those employed had the chance and willingness to trade vehicles to those with better gas mileage. Since then we have had quite a few give up and just retire at a poorer level than expected, and some with money or still working have traded cars. Also our ethanol quantity in gasoline has significantly risen also reducing gasoline consumption.

105 posted on 02/27/2012 6:37:22 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: FreedomPoster
Wouldn’t some of that capacity increase be offset by the increased demand in the NE created by the recemt shut down of some older refineries in NJ / Philly?

It is the reason for the expansions, total demand was not increasing.

106 posted on 02/27/2012 6:38:44 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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