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Couple Convicted In Pumpkin Patch Theft
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | Wed, Feb 22, 2012 | Rory McClannahan / Mountain View Telegraph

Posted on 02/22/2012 7:27:43 AM PST by CedarDave

MORIARTY — Matthew Schindele and Lauren Medina had a nice romantic date at McCall’s Pumpkin Patch last October to walk through the haunted barn and corn maze.

But that date didn’t really end until Tuesday in Torrance County Magistrate Court where the Albuquerque pair, both in their early 20s and University of New Mexico students, were found guilty of shoplifting an item worth $250 or less.

The heist? Pumpkins no larger than a volleyball and worth no more than $5.

“It’s not the dollar amount we’re talking about,” Magistrate Steve Jones said. “We’re talking about something you took without paying for.”

The case has attracted national attention and plenty of criticism. Comments on message boards criticize the court system, the Torrance County Sheriff’s Office and McCall’s Pumpkin Patch.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: pumpkinpatch; pumpkins
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The judge sentenced them to 40 hours of community service with charges to be dropped if they complete the work. He also assessed them $73 in court costs.
1 posted on 02/22/2012 7:27:54 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

McCall’s Pumpkin Patch in Moriarty was the setting for a criminal case that has attracted nationwide attention: the theft of a couple of pumpkins. The two students convicted of shoplifting Tuesday said they never intended to steal the squash in question.


2 posted on 02/22/2012 7:30:25 AM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

NM list PING! Click on the flag to go to the Free Republic New Mexico message page.

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)
(For ABQ Journal articles requiring a subscription, scroll down to the bottom of the page to view the article for free after watching a short video commercial.)

3 posted on 02/22/2012 7:32:29 AM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: CedarDave

Nothing says romance like theft!


4 posted on 02/22/2012 7:33:20 AM PST by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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The judge sentenced them to 40 hours of community service with charges to be dropped if they complete the work. He also assessed them $73 in court costs.

Certainly does not sound excessive to me. I'm getting tired of jerks like these two who by petty thievery or vandalism ruin everything for everybody else.

5 posted on 02/22/2012 7:39:58 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: CedarDave

one wonders why this is news in the first place.


6 posted on 02/22/2012 7:46:58 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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What’s the big deal? They are thieves and they got off light in my opinion. Guiliani straightened out New York by no longer tolerating petty crimes such as jumping the subway turnstiles (cost less than a pumpkin which takes all summer to grow) or requiring payment for squeegying a windshield; it sent a message that needed to be heard and NY was the better for it.


7 posted on 02/22/2012 7:59:21 AM PST by laconic
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To: Sans-Culotte
The company's website SAYS that on MTWTF there is a pumpkin provided as part of the price of admission.

On SS you have to pay.

This happened on FRIDAY.

I'm not exactly sure what the details of the charge were so I've asked Judge Jones to provide me with all the details so we can review his actions in detail.

I also pointed the judge to the company website and what it says about selling or giving away pumpkins.

8 posted on 02/22/2012 8:11:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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Unfortunately, the article was excerpted and one has to register to read the whole thing. Maybe they didn’t pay the admission?


9 posted on 02/22/2012 8:22:50 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: muawiyah

Now you’re in trouble. If there’s one thing judges hate it’s uppity citizens who try to block “justice” with facts. :)


10 posted on 02/22/2012 8:30:22 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Fortunately I'm in Virginia and he's in New Mexico.

We'll check his driver's license if he comes here and lock him up for not having one of them there International doo-hickies! FUR SHUR. (/s)

11 posted on 02/22/2012 8:54:24 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: CedarDave

Wait until the Great Pumpkin hears about what happened to her cousins...


12 posted on 02/22/2012 9:07:14 AM PST by 92nina
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I’m glad they got collared.

Pumpkin theivery is a gateway crime to full grinch-hood.


13 posted on 02/22/2012 9:37:27 AM PST by cicero2k
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The company's website SAYS that on MTWTF there is a pumpkin provided as part of the price of admission.

On SS you have to pay.

This happened on FRIDAY.

The website shows them closed on Mondays. For Tues-Friday, they are only open to scheduled groups (usually teachers and classes, but other arranged groups as well). They are only open to the general public on Sat-Sun.

So, how'd two folks on a date get in on a non-general public day?

We went to McCall's last year. A call to their number, prior to our visit, resulted in a message with similar details.

Here's the link to their admission policy: http://mccallpumpkinpatch.com/schedule-admission/

and one to the "Teacher's Page" showing the details of what is included in the admission for the scheduled groups and what's available to them in the way of activities/concessions: http://mccallpumpkinpatch.com/teachers/

14 posted on 02/22/2012 9:50:47 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: CedarDave

This is the second theft of pumpkin story from McCalls pumpkin patch that I have seen since yesterday.

WARNING: McCalls prosecutes theives.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 9:53:44 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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So, facts speak for themselves. They were there Friday. The cops were there Friday. They got a pumpkin.

That's the rules ~ I'm glad you read the rules.

What I want to know is on what basis do you go to a place, participate in whatever, spend money ~ presumably on admissions ~ and you walk out with a pumpkin just like the rules say ~ and then they charge you with theft.

I think there's some serious factoids missing in the news story. It's not our job to make them up for the cops or the judge. That's why I asked the judge to tell us what the charge was about ~ after also letting him know he'd become an international cause celebre and would probably need to relocate given the fact he was now on the major tourist tracks into and out of the Desert Southwest!

There may be some factoid we all ought to know about ~ but so far none of the people in the know have told us.

16 posted on 02/22/2012 10:20:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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17 posted on 02/22/2012 10:36:36 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Sans-Culotte
Unfortunately, the article was excerpted and one has to register to read the whole thing.

No. You don't have to register or subscribe; see post #3:

"For ABQ Journal articles requiring a subscription, scroll down to the bottom of the page to view the article for free after watching a short video commercial."

Maybe they didn’t pay the admission?

The article doesn't say anything about the admission price or give the date of the incident.

18 posted on 02/22/2012 10:39:40 AM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: muawiyah
We're both wrong. The article did mention the pumpkin patch, but the actual event they were there for was the Haunted Farm, which is an evening-only event, with separate admission from, and not related too, the the activities of the daytime-only Pumpkin Patch.

Here's a link to another news article that shows the specific event: http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/alleged-pumpkin-caper-goes-to-court. This article specifically mentions that the pumpkins are not for sale during this event.

And here's a link to the Haunted Farm site that shows nothing about pumpkins being included in the price of admission - also acknowledging that this is a separate event from the daytime-only pumpkin patch activities: http://mccallshauntedfarm.com/main.htm

19 posted on 02/22/2012 10:58:59 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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not related too - not related to... sheesh.


20 posted on 02/22/2012 11:00:05 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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