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Santorum Questions Obama’s Christian Values
WBUR ^ | Feb. 18, 2012 | AP

Posted on 02/18/2012 1:48:32 PM PST by Mozilla

COLUMBUS, Ohio — White House candidate Rick Santorum on Saturday questioned President Barack Obama’s Christian values and attacked GOP rival Mitt Romney’s Olympics leadership as he courted tea party activists and evangelical voters in Ohio, “ground zero” in the 2012 nomination fight.

Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator known for his social conservative policies, said that Obama’s agenda is “not about you. It’s not about your quality of life. It’s not about your jobs. It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology.”

Obama campaign deputy press secretary Ben Labolt said Santorum’s comment was “the latest low in a Republican primary campaign that has been fueled by distortions, ugliness, and searing pessimism and negativity.

Even as he criticized Obama, Santorum also went after one of Romney’s most promoted achievements – his leadership at the 2002 Olympic Winter Games in Salt Lake City.

“One of Mitt Romney’s greatest accomplishments, one of the things he talks about most is how he heroically showed up on the scene and bailed out and resolved the problems of the Salt Lake City Olympic Games,” Santorum said. “He heroically bailed out the Salt Lake City Olympic Games by heroically going to Congress and asking them for tens of millions of dollars to bail out the Salt Lake games — in an earmark, in an earmark for the Salt Lake Olympic games.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; obamaandgod; ricksantorum; spartansixdelta
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To: Colofornian
Let's see those single-minded convictions about keeping beliefs & religion out of this race come out re: your even application of them across the board.

As they say here in the Antipodes, 'Good onya mate!' May I heartily second your comments.

21 posted on 02/18/2012 3:13:21 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: SandwicheGuy; Colofornian
This looks like a good spot to drop this Twitter comment into the conversation...ABC Debate - stephanopoulos: Mr. Romney, will u strap the dog to the car roof when you drive to Missouri on the day Christ returns?

If these FReepers who get their knickers in a twist over discussion of Mitt's religion now, how are they planning to shut the Obama campaign up when the whole world is blasted with the hilarity that is mormonism?

22 posted on 02/18/2012 3:39:54 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't call us bigots! "Bigotry" is 98% of mormons in NV voting for Mitt Romney.)
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To: Mozilla
In his own words.

Obama is a Muslim

23 posted on 02/18/2012 3:40:57 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SmithL; rhema; Honorary Serb
Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology.”

Is he describing Øbama or the ELCA?

24 posted on 02/18/2012 3:42:12 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Mozilla
"“not about you. It’s not about your quality of life. It’s not about your jobs. It’s about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology.” "

Does Santorum really believe this is a winning political dialog? Gas prices are likely to hit $5 this summer and he wants to talk about Obama's Theology and the fact it's not based on the Bible?

25 posted on 02/18/2012 3:43:30 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mozilla

I wholeheartedly agree with Santorum that Obama is not a Christian. But I also have an issue with Santorum and catholicism. Is catholicism really a Christian religion?

Think about it. Jesus never said we have to go through the chain-of-command to confess our sins to God. To the contrary. Jesus said the “kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21).

Jesus did say, via his servant John, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” [1 John 1:9]. But he never said we have to confess our sins to some politically-or-popularity-appointed mortal (like a priest or a pope) to be forgiven.

Under Santorum’s view of religion, the Mafia is instantly exonerated for murder when they confess to some unnamed priest.

Thanks, but NO THANKS, Santorum! Leave your self-righteous attitude at home. Run on your record!

No way Santorum will do that. He is a big government fiscal LIBERAL! I know that for a fact. He was my Senator in Pennsylvania. For example, check out his voting record for that failed boondoggle called AMTRAK. [For those ignorant of the role of AMTRAK, it’s sole purpose is to transport politicians and Washington insiders to and from their homes in neighboring states to Washington DC. Santorum, the consumate Crony-Capitalist, always voted for AMTRAK subsidies]. His fiscal voting record has been anti-conservative from day-one. His social voting record is not much better. He voted against “right-to-work”legislation. How communist can one get before he is exposed?

Only a fool would vote for Santorum. I will support Gringrich (whom I despise) any day over Santorum.


26 posted on 02/18/2012 4:03:46 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: lightman; SmithL; rhema

obama is a muslim communist—WAY beyond the puny ELCA.

Of course, ELCA pastors, parishes, and synods play the dilettante and invite muslims and communists into their facilities, and form alliances with them. Other liberal protestants and just plain liberals do the same.

But we cannot temporize with the enemy!!!!


27 posted on 02/18/2012 4:10:04 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: PhilipFreneau

Isn’t Gingrich a Catholic too. Or is he just “less” Catholic enough for you?


28 posted on 02/18/2012 4:12:46 PM PST by magritte (Nevermind)
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To: magritte

>>Isn’t Gingrich a Catholic too. Or is he just “less” Catholic enough for you?<<

“Less Catholic” and “Less Crony-Capitalist” would be good credentials for any candidate running against “The Santorum”. Don’t you agree?


29 posted on 02/18/2012 4:36:42 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: driftdiver; NavyCanDo; Mozilla; All
Hey, Driftdiver...hey NavyCanDo...since you've both repeatedly made comments along the lines of the comments you made today @ Mitt Romney is Attempting to Destroy the Republican Party...comments like:

...Driftdiver (post #33: "Plenty of reasons to not like mittens. His religion has nothing to do with any of them.")...
...NavyCanDo (Post #41: "...plenty of reasons not to choose Romney as your candidate, but making his religion one of them, is small minded at best, bigoted at worse.")

...In light of my last post, c'mon in here and start lecturing Santorum & FREEPER posters about those who would dare bring Obama's religious beliefs into this POTUS race venue.

Why, we just know you wanna apply your convictions evenly across the board here.

30 posted on 02/18/2012 4:38:09 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: SandwicheGuy; savagesusie; greyfoxx39; Mariner; driftdiver; NavyCanDo; All
As they say here in the Antipodes, 'Good onya mate!' May I heartily second your comments. [SandwicheGuy]
I have always said Faith and Reason can never be separated. [Savagesusie, post #15]
If these FReepers who get their knickers in a twist over discussion of Mitt's religion now, how are they planning to shut the Obama campaign up when the whole world is blasted with the hilarity that is mormonism? [Greyfoxx39, post #22]

Mariner just posted another similar thread to this one: Santorum says Obama agenda not "based on Bible"

And I've invited Driftdiver & NavyCanDo into both of these threads to come on in and indirectly defend/deflect these religious comments about Obama ... since they've done the same thing on behalf of another liberal, Mitt Romney!

31 posted on 02/18/2012 4:43:13 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Mozilla

Buckwheat is insane, and, like Hitler, he believes he has divisions on call to take to the streets and enthrone him as dictator for life in America.

Buckwheat’s big error is that there’s not enough “Jaws of Life” to pry fat welfare momma’s hand from the jumbo bag of chips. Until that gets done, they can’t charge off the couch to die on a hilltop for Buckwheat.

Now, where’s my two liter bottle of Coke? Burp.


32 posted on 02/18/2012 4:46:55 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: magritte; PhilipFreneau
Isn’t Gingrich a Catholic too. Or is he just “less” Catholic enough for you?

Hey, Magritte, since you've indirectly deflected comments from Romney's theology thru other threads, let's see you do the same thing for yet another liberal, Obama...since Obama's (not Gingrich's) theology is what was questioned in this thread...

(You always seemed to have things turned around!)

Well, we're eagerly anticipating...starting defending Obama's theology!

We see you're off to a decent start on this thread as you've already tried to deflect the comments to Gingrich's Catholicism!

33 posted on 02/18/2012 4:48:36 PM PST by Colofornian
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34 posted on 02/18/2012 4:59:24 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Mozilla

Welcome to the club Rick. Most of the rest of America already know Obama is a Muslim.

His father was a Muslim(If the Sr.Obama was his father) his stepdaddy was a Muslim, His Grandpappy’s best friend Frank Davis was an atheist Communist,Obama studied at a Madrassa, and loves the sound of the call to prayer.

If it looks like a Duck and walks like a Duck and Quacks like a Duck, you can bet your bippy, it’s a duck.


35 posted on 02/18/2012 5:03:12 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Colofornian

So you just want to order me around and do your bidding? no thanks


36 posted on 02/18/2012 5:10:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bksanders
I think I'm getting a handle on the Santorum candidacy. He's in it to make conservatives look like buffoons. and doing a damn good job of it…

Speak for yourself. I think your brand is doing quite well at that without any help.
37 posted on 02/18/2012 5:16:05 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: lightman; Honorary Serb
A different theology, a different Jesus, a different ethic.


38 posted on 02/18/2012 5:49:59 PM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: PhilipFreneau
I wholeheartedly agree with Santorum that Obama is not a Christian. But I also have an issue with Santorum and catholicism. Is catholicism really a Christian religion? Think about it. Jesus never said we have to go through the chain-of-command to confess our sins to God. To the contrary. Jesus said the “kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21). Jesus did say, via his servant John, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” [1 John 1:9]. But he never said we have to confess our sins to some politically-or-popularity-appointed mortal (like a priest or a pope) to be forgiven. Under Santorum’s view of religion, the Mafia is instantly exonerated for murder when they confess to some unnamed priest.

well I guess I could spend the rest of the night bringing you up to date on Christianity, but I'll just hit some of the highlights... first of all, the Catholic church is the ONLY true, complete Christian church on earth....all the others came along about 1,500 years after the founding of Catholicism. your accounting for the forgiveness of sins leaves out the admonition that "whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained (the sacrament of reconciliation or penance. No the mafia just didn't have to list their sins to be forgiven, they, like all Catholics, must truly repent and ask God to forgive them. When one does not share in the truth of Catholicism, one tends to stray even further than they were when they accepted a protestant "denomination"....there are about 20,000 of them, take your choice!!!

39 posted on 02/18/2012 5:57:17 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: PhilipFreneau

I find it hard to believe that after Christ was resurrected that God allowed the the Church to thrive for thousands of years, and then say, ‘Oh wait, you guys have been doing it wrong. Here is Martin Luther’.


40 posted on 02/18/2012 6:06:03 PM PST by turn_to
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