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Could concussions actually kill football?
Yahoo Sports ^ | 2-14-2012 | Doug Farrar

Posted on 02/15/2012 5:36:05 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo

If the sport of football ever dies, it will die from the outside in. -- Jonah Lehrer

If an increasing number of economists and trend analysts are to be believed, we may one day look back at something like Colt McCoy's concussion against the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2011 as one of many galvanic events that blew football apart, and reduced the country's most popular sport to a marginal pastime. It's unlikely that such a colossal financial concern as football could be killed off entirely, but as Malcolm Gladwell first wrote in the New Yorker in 2009, it's not crazy to think that an increasing number of player concussions -- and the NFL's real lack of concern about those injuries despite its public face -- could have Americans looking at football very differently down the road.

Gladwell's article, which compared football to dogfighting and revealed some truly horrifying information about the effects of concussions on the minds and bodies of football players...

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


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To: Stosh

The Australians now say that doing any of this stuff without helmets has a lower concussion rate. SEE: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574527881984299454.html


21 posted on 02/15/2012 6:19:06 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Both of my nieces had to have their ACL’s replaced from soccer game injuries. I’m shocked that the Feds who police lunch boxes brought from home & packed by moms aren’t out on the kids’ soccer fields ‘in force’ to halt a game that causes injury to kids. /s


22 posted on 02/15/2012 6:19:27 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Harlan1196

That makes sense too. Rule changes could make a safer sport that would more resemble rugby with forward passes, more like football looked like 80 years ago.


23 posted on 02/15/2012 6:21:37 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Soccer is totally devoid of any political or other value. There is no point to it at all.

American football, however, takes on the cast of chess ~ a Russian favorite, particularly during the era of the Soviets!

24 posted on 02/15/2012 6:22:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Maryland may be nanny-state central, but they did recently pass a law that while it is still government over-reach, it’s one I can let pass because it’s frankly just common sense codified into law — anyone coaching youth sports (whether through schools or private leagues) is required to receive training on how to recognize and handle concussions.

See, the real problem with the Colt McCoy situation wasn’t the concussion itself — all sports carry a risk of injury, after all — it was the fact that he continued to play after the concussion. Whether that was ineptitude on the coaching and medical staff or indifference may be arguable, but he should not have been allowed to take the field while suffering from a concussion.


25 posted on 02/15/2012 6:23:04 AM PST by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: sodpoodle

“Better still - Rugby!!!!”


You bring up a good point. I would like to know if any study of hours played in Rugby vs Football (actual playing hours not standing around in a huddle) and percentages of concussions has ever been done.

My gut feeling is the perceived protection of a helmet allows players to stick their heads where they do not belong. No doubt there are some benefits to helmets but I do believe such a study would show the advantages/disadvantages of helmets.


26 posted on 02/15/2012 6:23:25 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: MissMagnolia

Obama will cut Federal funding to school districts that play football.


27 posted on 02/15/2012 6:23:25 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I don't know if I'd call soccer a socialist sport. There's no coddling of under performing teams as in American pro sports. Finish last in a soccer league and it's off to the minor league for the squad and a team that wins in the lower lever moves up. The invisible hand works better in soccer than in US sports.
28 posted on 02/15/2012 6:25:02 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Harlan1196
We (bunch of guys in downtown DC office buildings) once had a team in a league of similar people for Sunday morning Touch Football played in a park area near the Lincoln Memorial.

Basic rule was UPRIGHT STANCE ~ NO HELMETS!

Another rule, contact only with the hand.

So, that worked great for years, and as we moved into our 30s and got more worried about minor injuries turning into major problems we ended our team, and the league when one guy slipped on some leaves and broke his femur!

29 posted on 02/15/2012 6:25:24 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: massgopguy

School districts should use it as an opportunity to get the Feds out of education .... but that will never happen.


30 posted on 02/15/2012 6:27:26 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: bolobaby

You are onto something I pointed to yesterday. School districts where football is a big time sport will actually hold kids back in kindergarten and grammar school just to give them extra eligibility time in their late teens in highschool. SEE Yesterday’s Debate over what I believe is an attempt to do this statewide in three states: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2846104/posts


31 posted on 02/15/2012 6:30:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
...Soccer has a secret ~ broken ankles ~ broken so bad kids are maimed for life...

Snapped Achilles tendons, blown out knees, broken collarbones, broken wrists, concussions, etc.

My sons have played soccer since they were 5. I'm amazed at how much a contact sport it is.

32 posted on 02/15/2012 6:31:21 AM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: muawiyah; Colonel Kangaroo

My soccer as a socialist sport was a tongue in cheek comment on a couple of aspects of soccer (the lack of risk reward in the sport compared to most, the low scores that don’t hurt feelings, and the smarmy holier than thou aspect of the hard core soccer elitist.

I wrote this article almost two years ago, but I re read it last night as research for some ghost writing I am doing. Ironically you post this story today and its fresh on my mind:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/soccer_the_perfect_socialist_s.html


33 posted on 02/15/2012 6:33:04 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

1. Return to leather helmets. That will stop players leading with their heads to tackle.

2. Impose weight limits on players. Over a certain weight, you can’t play.


34 posted on 02/15/2012 6:36:04 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You raise some good points. I wonder if any research has been done to see what might happen if football were to become more of an aerobic sport. As it is now, it’s a very anerobic sport played in short, intense, bursts of action. This is what basically enables the game to be played by people of such enormous stature.


35 posted on 02/15/2012 6:37:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: kevkrom

The league is going to have to institute game officials with medical knowledge who have to approve any injured player returning to the game.


36 posted on 02/15/2012 6:37:16 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: muawiyah
...Soccer is totally devoid of any political or other value. There is no point to it at all...

Apparently you haven't studied the game. I thought the same before my sons started playing.

In the 15 years since I've grown to understand and appreciate the skill and intelligence involved. They call it "The Beautiful Game" and I have to agree now. Watching teams at the level of the English Premier League or the Spanish La Liga is an amazing experience.

37 posted on 02/15/2012 6:38:57 AM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: muawiyah
Soccer has a secret ~ broken ankles ~ broken so bad kids are maimed for life.

And KNEES! My sister-in-law had a college scholarship offer during her junior year in high school; they were scouting her hard! She tore both ACL's because of an illegal, HARD take down from behind and everything, EVERYTHING went away after that! She had double ACL reconstructive surgery, but both knees are a problem still to this day!

During my tenure in the Marine Corps, I know of at 20+ Marines who blew out their knees playing soccer as a part of scheduled PT and it ended their careers!
38 posted on 02/15/2012 6:38:57 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: DBrow

Just look at boxing. Remember how huge boxing was during the era of Ali. Look at boxing now, it’s a fringe sport.


39 posted on 02/15/2012 6:38:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
My insight into soccer arrived packaged ~ buddy of mine in college grew up in a Shone Kraal in what used to be Southern Rhodesia. The cows would eat grass in the common areas in the morning, then be moved off to shelter for the afternoon and cud chewing time.

The "boys" would then have the fields to themselves, and given that it's always hot in the afternoon anywhere in Africa, no adults were around to bother them.

That's what soccer is ~ something impoverished people with no money can play in their youth. Only needs one ball.

My buddy didn't think soccer had any purpose other than that. On the other hand he loved American basketball and driving cars.

40 posted on 02/15/2012 6:40:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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