Posted on 02/12/2012 7:31:45 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Green: Mr. Speaker, my wife and I were really wanting to be able to vote for you for president two years ago. Are we going to get to do that in 2012?
Gingrich: All I can tell you is that sometime in February or March, Calista and I and our family will be making this decision. As you know, I'm a great admirer of your work and of all you've done to teach Americans about their history and the roots of American freedom. And I can assure you that if we do decide to run next year, we're promptly going to call you and say "we need your help, and we need your advice, and we need your counsel." It's more than a voting matter. If we decide to run, David, we're going to need you.
David Barton is terrific. I’d vote for HIM for president any day!
Rick Green is the co-host of Wallbuilders Live.
Barton is amazing. I like his thoughts on things for sure.
I was introduced to David Barton’s work in early 92 and was very impressed. Actually had a chance to chat with him on the eve of the 92 elections in a fluke meeting which was fun. (he warned me about the influence of Karl Rove and one other insider on GWB’s team in fact. But that’s another thread).
But to the point - It makes total sense that two students of history like Barton and Newt would have a lot in common. I would pay a nice sum to sit in on a dinner conversation between those two.
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;...that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. ""I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
David Barton is an excellent historian and seems to be a strong Christian. If he associates himself with Newt (a good thing IMO), he should be ready for Glenn Beck to break ties with him and call him a scumbag by association, LOL.
Yes I was wondering what Barton was going to do about his close buddyness with Beck...
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I would say he would agree with it.
Have you actually listened to Barton? Or only what progressives say about him?
No doubt Barton is a lot more stable than Beck, so I imagine he would join up with Newt if he likes and let Beck have his hissy fitGlenns problem, not his.
From what Barton believes I wouldnt call him stable
What’s that?
"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
Why? Barton is BRILLIANT
try wallbuilders.com
What do you think his thoughts would be? What Jefferson says there is exactly the same conclusion Barton has drawn about him in every commentary I have seen, heard, or read from Barton. Seriously, if you only have ONE of Barton’s dvds, then you are selling yourself short. He has a some works out there.
What does he believe?
-—————Perhaps you would, but I want to know what he thinks of it in his own words.———————
You said you had one of Barton’s DVDs. In every fairly long presentation of his I’ve ever seen(meaning more than a few minutes), he’s made it clear that all of his progressive detractors are clueless(or dishonest) about him and what he’s really saying.(not that it’s hard to miss)
Which DVD do you have? Name it, please.
Really? Can you elaborate?
>>Which DVD do you have? Name it, please.
America’s Godly Heritage
>>try wallbuilders.com
Did. There’s a single reference to the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom - and it’s dated 12/26/2011
David Barton - 12/26/2011
There appears to be no text there that articulates Barton’s opinion or thoughts regarding the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious Freedom.
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