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Clostridium difficile-associated diarrhea can be associated with stomach acid drugs known as...
FDA ^ | 02-08-2012 | NA

Posted on 02/09/2012 11:18:31 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/09/2012 11:18:34 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...
FReepmail me if you want on or off my combined microbiology/immunology ping list.
2 posted on 02/09/2012 11:21:45 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Apparently you need at least some acid in the stomach to keep those bugs under control.....


3 posted on 02/09/2012 11:31:56 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: neverdem

Many times, heartburn and reflux are due to too little acid in the stomach. Doctors and patients are too quick to prescribe or head to the medicine cabinet when a little pickle, lemon, or vinegar would suffice.


4 posted on 02/09/2012 11:39:09 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Reflux due to too little acid?????

Whatever.

All I can say is until you have suddenly jerked awake in the night, choking on a big shot of hydrochloric acid that has made its way up your esophagus and down your windpipe and into your lungs while you were asleep, then you have no clue how fast I will kill you if you try to take away my PPIs.

I’ll take the risk of a case of the runs in order to prevent more acid destruction to what is left of my lungs, thank you very much.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 12:10:53 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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Ping...(Thanks, neverdem!)


6 posted on 02/10/2012 1:37:42 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Nik Naym

Thankfully, most people can’t even imagine how frightening this can be. Mrs. panax suffers from the same thing as you. It is a terrible affliction.

Good luck...panax

http://www.webmd.com/heartburn-gerd/laryngospasm-causes-symptoms-and-treatments


7 posted on 02/10/2012 2:02:30 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Nik Naym

Another link that may be helpful for those who suffer from laryngospasms.

http://www.heartburn-help.com/MessageBoard36/_disc16/00000083.htm


8 posted on 02/10/2012 2:08:37 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; Nik Naym

“when a little pickle, lemon, or vinegar would suffice.”
My Chinese herb doctor had me doing shots of rice vinegar. The thing that helped the most, as far as waking up choking, which is terrifying, was raising the head of my bed about 5”. Stopped the night chokes immediately!


9 posted on 02/10/2012 3:32:36 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Nik Naym

So that’s what that was. I’ve done that too. Been on Zantac for about 15 years.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 3:41:15 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Try being a celiac with a hiatal hernia. I take omeprazole every day to combat the involuntary removal of esophageal lining. This because tums isn’t really an option for a celiac, and as many as I’d been eating, I might as well have had stock in the company, with dividends paid in product. No problems with CDAD here, either. Only celiac disease. I’m not at all worried about the other. That pales in comparison to CD and, say, stomach cancer.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 3:41:25 AM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: panaxanax

Thanks.


12 posted on 02/10/2012 3:45:34 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

I used real apple cider vinegar with the mother, not the apple cider flavored stuff, during both of my pregnancies. Works like a charm!


13 posted on 02/10/2012 3:47:01 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: neverdem

Interesting - a few years ago my then 11 year old daughter was suffering from the symptoms of ulcerative colitis. Her GI doctor suggested she take twice the amount of Prevacid than normal. She eventually ended up in the hospital with C diff.


14 posted on 02/10/2012 3:47:41 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: neverdem

This why third world menus include hot peppers.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 3:51:36 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Vigilantcitizen

You’re very welcome.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 4:03:25 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Nik Naym

been there done that... first they came for my pain medication, then they came for my anti-histimines, now they are coming for my stomach acid drugs.... what will be outlawed next?


17 posted on 02/10/2012 4:33:13 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Apple works for me,
though I don’t get reflux often.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 5:18:32 AM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: Nik Naym

One thing that works for mild acid reflux....a spoonful of oats. They think it’s something about the oat fiber causes the esophagal valve to close.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 5:54:15 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: neverdem

This is bizarrely interesting.

Typically, c. difficile outbreaks are caused by the use of potent spectrum antibiotics, used more frequently these days because of resistant strains of bacteria, and also by potent chemotherapy chemicals that wipe out much of the intestinal flora.

Both of these causes can also open the door to extremely dangerous infections by drug resistant bacteria.

Background: Human intestinal flora includes some 300-1000 different types of bacteria, of which only 30-40 types take up almost all the physical space. The rest of the bacteria are mostly harmless, but some are pathogenic.

Typically, humans have some drug resistant bacteria in them, which cause no problem *unless* the “majority” bacterial cultures have been damaged. This creates the opportunity for a “space race” population explosion by the drug resistant bacteria. And while a little bit of them are not harmful, a large number of them produce so much deadly toxin as waste that they can kill.

Importantly, when outbreaks of these drug resistant bacteria happen in hospitals, considerable success in subduing them has been achieved by using tight controls over the use of antibiotics.

However, that proton pump drugs can cause an outbreak of c. difficile raises a whole bunch of questions and possibilities.


20 posted on 02/10/2012 6:45:31 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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