Posted on 02/05/2012 6:59:20 PM PST by mnehring
Edited on 02/05/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
During an appearance on CNNs Piers Morgan, GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul was asked whether as a man with daughters and granddaughters, Rep. Paul (R-TX) thinks that abortion is warranted if a woman has been impregnated by a rapist.
If its an honest rape, Paul replied, that individual should go immediately to the emergency room, I would give them a shot of estrogen. He claimed, however, that if a woman is seven months pregnant and says that she was raped, Its a little bit of a different story. Source
“forcible” rape, maybe? (full circle)
Envision Ruthy's pancreatic cancer sweeping back in this week and she's gone by next week. The funny little Latina whose been mainlining all sorts of insulin for 40 years could simply collapse in a heap of broken bones. Then, there's the gal from Harvard ~ she's carrying entirely too much weight. A heart attack is in the realm of possibility.
That's 3. Presuming that happens too late for an outgoing Obama regime to do anything about it, the new guy coming in as President can appoint the people we need giving us a 7 to 2 court.
So, don't rule out an absolute prohibition with no exceptions.
svcw: “So because there maybe a rape the baby should be dismembered or burned to death and that is ok?”
An injection immediately after the rape doesn’t dismember or burn a baby. That’s not to say I have no moral qualms against treatments like the morning after pill. I do, but let’s not sensationalize it.
I think this is a very fair description:
http://www.morningafterpill.org/how-does-it-work.html
Note that the pill can delay ovulation, prevent an egg from being released, and irritate the lining of the uterus so a fertilized egg won’t implant. Only the latter actually destroys a fertilized egg.
That's rape. Period.
Not when some girl gives it up for her boyfriend and then screams rapes, or some wife comes home from a business trip, after banging her boss in the hotel, and tells her husband he raped her.
Those scenarios are NOT rape in any way shape or form. Why even dignify them with the term "rape", even if it's "dishonest rape"? Why not call them what they are, filing a false report or even perjury?
Why do you keep referring to him as “alterPaul”?
And your the reason I despise the frothing at the mouth anti abortion nuts as much as I hate the Nazis at Planned parenthood ...forcing a rape victim to carry a child to term is something the koran animals would do
Respectfully, my FRiend, I do not agree.
I think that it's apparent that it meant something to him, and I do believe the gentleman to be, at times, insufficiently lucid.
I do not think that Dr. Paul is a bad or dishonest person.
That said, he lacks a certain continuous mental presence on the home planet.
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With Neeson reportedly on the verge of converting to Islam, maybe the conversation would go more like this:
Mary MacGregor: Robert, there is more. I am carrying a child and I do not know who is the father.”
Robert Roy MacGregor: Ach, Mary, how could you bring such shame on our family?
Mary MacGregor: I could not kill it, husband.
Robert Roy MacGregor: It’s not the child that needs killing, it’s you. The seed of your shame will perish in the womb as God wills.
However bad things might seem here, they could always be worse...
I really believe the man lives in an alternate universe.
It revolves a science fiction story line where there are alternate universes and the main charters refer to the people in the alternate universe as (whatever their names are) the other person as alter(whatever).
So Sam in this universe becomes alterSam in the alternate universe.
That’s all, I did not used to but the more he speaks the more it seems to fit.
No they wouldn't. See my post No. 88 above.
Has she actually told you that is how she feels?
If not, I think you'd be wise to make sure...
The baby is innocent.
Exactly.
It is an assumption based on ignorance that women who are victims of rape automatically want to abort - should they conceive.
It’s that old two wrongs don’t make a right sort of thing...
Wow...well, at least you have started a controversy here...
Yes, many of RAPE charges are false! It seems that the continue effects of feminism continue to be false!
Yes, the are many who claim false charges because they are drunk. Is that really fair? Most of the men were drunk also, should they be charged also? Mercy, when are we all going to be responsible for our own actions - drunk or not!
Ah, I give up, with today’s feminists and the blame men theology, we do not have a chance!
So, of course you would take the statements of the women and disregard the man’s statements, that seems to be the way things are going these days....
How about we give both the benefit of the doubt?
The evidence needed to permit an abortion under a rape exception is different from that needed to convict a rapist (whether capital punishment, castration, or imprisonment is the statutory punishment): for the first it is necessary to establish beyond a shadow of a doubt that the woman was raped, for the latter, it is also required that the identity of the rapist be established beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I would think that a properly constructed rape exception would require an evidentiary hearing to establish that a rape had taken place. Alas, we are very far from needing to consider the exact details at this point, even though a pro-life policy with such exceptions should garner majority support among the populace (unless the no-exceptions folk let the perfect be the enemy of the good and perversely side with the pro-abortion folk because they can’t get everything they want).
That would be funny if it were not so sad, disgusting and true.
I despise mewling cowards who abandon their reason when it gets difficult for their tender sensibilities to accept.
“I think its pretty obvious hes right.”
WRONG.
All abortion is murder. Abortionists are murderers, period. I don’t care who did a rape. One thing I know is that the child had NOTHING to do with it. Innocent life is INNOCENT, get it? A doctor nor a mother has the right to kill an innocent child of any age. Six years, six months, six days, six hours, or six seconds.
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