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A Harder Squeeze on the (Illegal Alien) Poor (NYT)
New York Times ^ | January 30, 2012

Posted on 01/31/2012 5:55:26 AM PST by reaganaut1

House Republicans have hit upon a noxious scheme to help pay for an extension of the payroll tax cut: a tax increase on millions of poor working families. A bill passed by the House and now in conference seeks to deny cash refunds under the child tax credit to those who file tax returns using “individual taxpayer identification numbers” issued by the Internal Revenue Service. Only those using Social Security numbers would be eligible.

The refundable portion of the child tax credit is a life-saver for the working poor. Families that would be cut off by this policy change make an average of $21,000 per year, according to the Treasury Department. They would lose an average of $1,800. About 80 percent of those families are Hispanic. The taxpayer identification numbers are used frequently, though not exclusively, by unauthorized immigrants to pay the taxes because they are not eligible for Social Security numbers. The I.R.S. accepts their tax payments and allows families to claim the child tax credit regardless of immigration status. This policy is an effective antipoverty tool that protects children, most of whom are American-born citizens.

The Republicans who have flatly rejected tax increases on the rich have settled instead on limiting this refund, which kept about 1.3 million children from falling into poverty in 2009.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens
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How many American citizens think illegal aliens should get tax credits? Thanks for publicizing this issue, NYT.
1 posted on 01/31/2012 5:55:29 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Liz; La Lydia; AuntB

Three-Hanky PING


2 posted on 01/31/2012 6:03:44 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney a Massachusetts moderate which is a liberal by Republican standards)
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To: reaganaut1

This is indeed, wonderful news.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 6:04:06 AM PST by ransacked
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To: reaganaut1

No Everify, no workee
No E-Verify, no welfare


4 posted on 01/31/2012 6:07:31 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: reaganaut1

used frequently, though not exclusively, by unauthorized immigrants to pay the taxes because they are not eligible for Social Security numbers. The I.R.S. accepts their tax payments and allows families to claim the child tax credit regardless of immigration status. This policy is an effective antipoverty tool that protects children, most of whom are American-born citizens.

First, I reject the distortion of the English language in the two words “unauthorized immigrants”, and the follow on premise that most of their children “are American-born citizens”. An Illegal Alien cannot give birth to an American born citizen, another false and deadly premise that needs to be outed by sanity and common sense.

With that in mind, Republican tactics need to focus on the profligate spending above and beyond our means, that is THE problem in DEE CEE. Until there is a budget, the spending continues unabated and uncontrolled. Well maybe not uncontrolled as we know precisely who is controlling it.

The same bunch that in over a thousand days, has not produced a budget.


5 posted on 01/31/2012 6:16:28 AM PST by wita
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To: reaganaut1

I don’t think they should be working, period, illegally.


6 posted on 01/31/2012 6:17:15 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: wita

The House has produced budgets, its the Senate that refuses to


7 posted on 01/31/2012 6:18:27 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: wita

Do you really think the GOP wants to see real spending cuts?


8 posted on 01/31/2012 6:22:35 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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THE JUST HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE SCAM Poor illegals? That's a laugh----the "impoverished" illegals buy multiple fake identituies for several thousand dollars each. Every identity rides the US gravy train----plus their kids get SS nos that the parents use to get more benefits. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities.

ADD IT UP A family of four w/ an income of $30,000 a year qualifies for food stamps. Even with a job paying $7.25 an hour, the actual income is $48,000 a year when you add all the govt benefits: food stamps, Medicaid coverage, subsidized child care, school lunch program, “Temporary” Assistance to Needy Families, subsidized housing, Earned Income Tax Credit, etc.

REFERENCE The Federal ID that Pays Illegal Aliens Billions -----November 28, 2011

......a recent analysis entitled, “Treasury Department Says Illegal Aliens Collection Billions in Tax Credits,” revealed that according to the Department of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit.

EITC claims---can run up to over $3000 per claim. $20 billion is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

9 posted on 01/31/2012 6:23:53 AM PST by Liz
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To: reaganaut1
About 80 percent of those families are Hispanic.

If illegals are going to come here to "hardwork", they should pay their "fair share". The taxpayers shouldn't be paying them.

10 posted on 01/31/2012 6:30:18 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Your President's DOJ is taking the Fifth Amendment! How do you feel about that?)
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t forget the un- “earned income credit”. That’s where you can get up to $5,700 of tax return dollars for income you didn’t earn so were never taxed on.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 6:34:37 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: GeronL

Thanks for pointing out what I thought was obvious. I don’t mean it the way it sounds. The obvious may not have been to many folks. Indeed, it is the Senate that has gone over 1000 days without a budget submission which should lead to “budget reconciliation” but will not, due to the lack of one from the all wise and knowing Senate. IMHO the most dangerous body of men and women on the face of the earth. In my mind the sense of the senate is nonsense. There, I’ve said it!!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 01/31/2012 6:37:10 AM PST by wita
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To: GeronL

Like Rush says, the battle is to see who controls the M O N E Y. Hope that answers the question.

Oh, perhaps another aside, just how much cutting over a ten year period has even been talked about by anyone of either party?


13 posted on 01/31/2012 6:40:26 AM PST by wita
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To: wita

Even the toughest proposals I have seen from Ron Paul and others would, at most, be a spending freeze.


14 posted on 01/31/2012 6:42:19 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Even as President?


15 posted on 01/31/2012 6:44:29 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: wita

Yep. The most dangerous people in this country are the gullible and envious voters who believe that the government can give away as much money as it wants.


16 posted on 01/31/2012 6:44:46 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

lol


17 posted on 01/31/2012 6:45:35 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

the government can give away as much money as it wants.

I like your point and it reminds me of a lesson learned long ago from a wise mother, who repeated and repeated and repeated, the statement, “money does not grow on trees”.

A lesson missing in the lives of millions of those who believe in the magic stash that government has just for them.


18 posted on 01/31/2012 6:58:56 AM PST by wita
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To: wita

Yep.

Of course if money did grow on trees, money would be quite worthless very quickly


19 posted on 01/31/2012 7:00:36 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Swim against the tide of RINOism.



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20 posted on 01/31/2012 7:16:23 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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