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Obama's Assault on Religious Conscience (Time for all good Catholics to unite against his policies)
American Thinker ^ | 01/31/2012 | Jim Yardley

Posted on 01/31/2012 5:10:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The Catholic Church has taken a rather strong stand in opposing the Obama administration's requirement that the church provide contraceptive medicine and treatments as a required component of Obamacare. Apparently the administration is in accord with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi in shrugging off concerns about the "conscience thing" that has forced the Catholic Church to denounce this policy from the pulpit during Mass on this past Sunday all over America.

The government is requiring the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, and the congregants who are devout Catholics, to fund such contraceptive medicine for all lay employees of Catholic grammar schools, high schools, colleges and universities and for all of the Catholic Church's hospitals and any other church operation that employs lay people across the nation, regardless of their strong opposition on religious grounds.

The Church's stance on this issue is admirable, but not nearly dramatic enough; nor is it something that Obama and his merry band of Liberal-Progressive-Democrats would worry about. Right now they can just give a collective yawn, and assume that Catholics, a traditional Democrat voting block, will continue to vote for anyone with (D) after their name.

This response is particularly valid when they know that the IRS and the Department of Justice would jump all over the church if there was a "Don't Vote for Obama" sermon given from the pulpit. No church of any denominations is allowed to make such overt political endorsements under the threat of losing their tax-exempt status.

The Church has a way to seriously threaten the administration and still not lose their tax exempt status. I'm surprised that it hasn't already been voiced somewhere in the media, considering how disruptive it would be to the entire nation.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; conscience; obama; religion
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1 posted on 01/31/2012 5:10:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting idea. I suspect the Catholic leadership isn’t serious enough about this issue to shut down their schools and hospitals though. But I bet it would work.


2 posted on 01/31/2012 5:18:58 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Anyone see the democrat budget yet?)
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To: SeekAndFind
No church of any denominations is allowed to make such overt political endorsements under the threat of losing their tax-exempt status.

So this is what it comes to: even a conservative columnist doesn't believe a priest has either freedom of speech or freedom of religion. What is so hard to understand about "Congress shall make no law".

3 posted on 01/31/2012 5:19:16 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, the dictator obama and his thug henchmen could care less about the first amendment to the US Constitution and the US Congress will sit on their hands as usual. The days of freedom are at an end it seems. You know,

Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion and Petition

I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

4 posted on 01/31/2012 5:19:40 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Right now they can just give a collective yawn, and assume that Catholics, a traditional Democrat voting block, will continue to vote for anyone with (D) after their name.

(D) gets 55 to 60% of the Catholic vote in the past?

Will it happen again in 2012?

5 posted on 01/31/2012 5:30:43 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nancy Pelosi isn’t a Catholic. Her religion is the Democrat party.

On Judgement day I wouldn’t want to be standing next to her.


6 posted on 01/31/2012 5:39:50 AM PST by Venturer
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To: MulberryDraw

My understanding is that it’s not a federal mandate that they have to comply with if they cease taking federal funding.

That’s the route to go - get off the teat.


7 posted on 01/31/2012 5:44:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Venturer

RE: On Judgement day I wouldn’t want to be standing next to her.

Why not? You’d look good in comparison :)


8 posted on 01/31/2012 5:45:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; Venturer

Judgement isn’t “on the curve”, and we’ll each be facing The Judge on our own, with the only comparison being to The Law. Of course, when He asks who will pay for these transgressions, we have Someone Who will step forward for us and say “I did”.


9 posted on 01/31/2012 5:46:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: TYVets

Liberals attribute their advocacy of “something” being done for the poor to their own righteousness.

All the better when it doesn’t personally cost them anything from their own time or wealth or effort.


10 posted on 01/31/2012 5:48:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MulberryDraw

Time to shrug, and then loudly explain why.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 5:49:28 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: MulberryDraw

“I suspect the Catholic leadership isn’t serious enough about this issue to...”

Bishops Refuse to Comply With Obamacare Birth Control Mandate: http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/30/bishops-refuse-to-comply-with-obamacare-birth-control-mandate

The “We will not comply” movement is growing. People ARE going to become a lot more aware of this.


12 posted on 01/31/2012 5:54:20 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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just a question.. was there a general consensus in the US Catholic church leadership that “free” medical care aka obamacare was good while it was being debated?


13 posted on 01/31/2012 5:58:24 AM PST by newnhdad (Soylent green is people..)
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To: MrB; SeekAndFind

I don’t think federal aid matters in the case of the insurance mandate. This is something that all employers have to comply with, except Obama’s buddies who have gotten waivers.

Religious organizations are not required to comply with it only if their services are provided SOLELY to members of that religion. Catholic charitable and educational services are provided to everybody; a huge number of students in Catholic school are not Catholic, for example.

That said, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Obama actually would be happy to see the Church get out of education, health care and other charitable work. It might be a little disruptive to shift all of those services to the state, but he’d be happy to see his arch-enemy and its influence removed from the scene.


14 posted on 01/31/2012 6:03:40 AM PST by livius
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To: newnhdad

I don’t think so...there have always been the liberals who liked the idea, but many in the Church leadership knew from the start where this would lead.

The thing that amazes me is that the Catholic liberals are now genuinely surprised by Obama’s action. Originally, I thought that they would be fine with this, because only a fool would have believed that Obama wouldn’t try to make the Church violate its principles and accept these requirements. But I guess they really were just fools, because I have read some outraged articles by them and they are genuinely surprised and they feel betrayed by their hero. How naive can you get!


15 posted on 01/31/2012 6:08:43 AM PST by livius
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To: SeekAndFind

The Family Research Council’s daily Washington Update quoted another’s apt analogy:
http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?f=WU12A19#update

“””[I]t would be like the government mandating that all delis, even Kosher delis, serve pork products and then justifying it by saying that protein is healthy, and many Jews don’t follow Kosher laws and many non-Jews go to those delis,” writes Michael Doughtery of Business Insider. “The law wouldn’t technically ban Jews from owning delis, but it would effectively ban their ability to run them according to their conscience.””


16 posted on 01/31/2012 6:11:54 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: livius

Your information is correct.

My husband and I have been talking lately about the fact that most Americans believe that religious persecution could never happen in the USA. They are wrong!


17 posted on 01/31/2012 6:12:00 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s long past time for Catholics to start voting correctly, period.


18 posted on 01/31/2012 6:19:57 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I wonder how many of my brother Knights of Columbus know that White House Adviser Henry Knox has libeled us a “Hate Group”


19 posted on 01/31/2012 6:22:40 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SeekAndFind

For Mr. Obama, who has a very faulty knowledge of American History and the entire American IDEA:

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. ...Thomas Jefferson


20 posted on 01/31/2012 6:34:43 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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