Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church (Some idiots wanted "change" so they got it)

cbs ^ | 1/30/2012 | By Brian Montopoli

[tobyhill]

During church services on Sunday, Catholics around the country were read a blistering letter assailing the Obama administration for an "assault on religious liberty" in the form of a coming requirement that most church-linked organizations - among them hospitals, schools and universities - offer birth control coverage as part of their health care plans.

Despite strong lobbying from religious groups, the Health and Human Services Department announced earlier this month that most church-linked groups will not be exempt from the requirements - which also mandate that no co-pay be charged for contraceptive services - though they will have an extra year to comply beyond the August 1 deadline. Churches themselves (along with any other employer that is explicitly focused on offering a religious message, and which primarily employs those who believe in that message) are exempt from the requirement.

Religious groups were outraged by the decision - saying it forced employers at church-linked organizations to violate their conscience - and on Sunday Catholic leaders took their complaints directly to parishioners. As Business Insider reported, similar letters were read in churches around the country complaining that "the Obama Administration has cast aside the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, denying to Catholics our Nation's first and most fundamental freedom, that of religious liberty."

[EBH]

First the bankers, then Wall Street, then the fictional 1%, now Catholics... gee sort of sounds familiar?

Make no mistake about it. If you are a Christian, they are coming for you too.

The stage is indeed set for the ‘great falling away.’ As the persecution, and that is what this is, as the persecution escalates...those social justice churches will fall away.

Remember Revelations tells us there really wasn’t a single Holy Church that did not have some item against it.

To fellow FReepers who want to point, snicker, etc. at the Catholic Church at least they have taken a final stand...

We used to toss a phrase around here. It went something like this, “I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll fight to the death your right to say it.”

[EBH]

The Catholic Church defends religious liberty, including freedom of conscience, for everyone. The Amish do not carry health insurance. The government respects their principles. Christian Scientists want to heal by prayer alone, and the new health-care reform law respects that. Quakers and others object to killing even in wartime, and the government respects that principle for conscientious objectors. By its decision, the Obama administration has failed to show the same respect for the consciences of Catholics and others who object to treating pregnancy as a disease.

This latest erosion of our first freedom should make all Americans pause. When the government tampers with a freedom so fundamental to the life of our nation, one shudders to think what lies ahead.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/social_justice/sj0257.htm

[freedomlover]

How’d that “historic” vote work out for ‘em, then?

Its not like he flip flopped on abortion or something. He is on the record as being for partial birth abortion. Last time I checked that was a big deal for some Catholics.

And trust me, I have huge respect for Catholicism. But the fact that so many of them (and Jews) voted for a Marxist just amazed me.

“Historic”, all right.

[NotSoFreeStater]

And our Catholic governor in Maryland is pushing gay marriage.

[Robwin]

But here is the bottom line. How many of these Catholics will vote once again for Barack Hussein Obama in 2012? True conviction would preclude any good Catholic from voting for this guy.

Will vote? How many voted for this guy in '08 even though he was well known to be one of the most, if not the most, proabortion senator in US history?

My understanding is he carried a majority of the Catholic vote in the last election. Moreover in the past the Bishops stupidly supported just about every government intrusion into the medical field including Obamacare. Now they witness the fruits of their labors and are issuing pastorals decrying the outcome.

Too late, too late. The Catholic Church has already ceded to the goverment the right to regulate health realted issues.

[Kansas58]

I disagree.
We must, often, fight on the turf of the enemy, and use terms that the enemy uses, if we wish to win.
Making liberals uncomfortable with themselves is important, in all of our battles.
Religious Liberty is much easier to define than any “privacy right” or right to contraception.

Not everyone agrees with the Church, on birth control. In fact, a large number of Catholics disagree.

However, on a broadly defined “Religious Liberty” argument, we win, hands down, on this issue.

[Robwin]

And our Catholic governor in Maryland is pushing gay marriage.

As is the "Catholic" governor of my state, Washington. It's expected to pass here, too, because of the Liberalism of what we call the West Side (of the Cascades), Seattle, Olympia, and such.

[pie_eater]

After the letter was read at our mass yesterday the priest was greeted with thunderous applause.

[Mr. Wright]

You make an excellent point.

[redgolum]

Great. So has he been excommunicated?

The problem is that all the churches are to nice. Stop being nice, start being good. Confront the sinner. In private first, then with a few elders of the church, then the whole church.

The big problem is most pastor/priests won't even do the first part. To much donation money at risk.

[Clintonfatigued]

Ping

[thomas16]

This website is antic Catholic and anti any religion other than WASP. Santorum is the only conservative in this race and freepers won’t acknowledge him. O will get another 4 years because you wish to elect a person who is the ultimate cynical political insider and make his home wrecker wife of a home wrecker wife first lady. Newt is only liked by freepers because he is not a Mormon and not Catholic. You deserve Newt.

[newbie 10-21-00]

Errrrrrrrrr!!! Thanks for playing but Newt converted to Catholicism a while back.

[narses]

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[Mr. Wright]

For the record, both Newt and Rick Santorum, whom I admire and will support either, are of the Catholic faith. Get your facts straight before posting idiotic information on this site. I never was, and never will be, anti-catholic.

[Verginius Rufus]

Notice how CBS makes it appear that the Church is just objecting to birth control and ignores the fact that HHS is also mandating “morning after” pill coverage which the Church considers abortion if conception has taken place—you have to read all the way down to the letter from the bishop to learn that part of it.

[Ted Grant]

If the GOP wibs the Catholic vote, it will only be by a few points. A pathologically unreliable constituency for Republicans.

[Salvation]

why pick on the Catholics? What about the evangelicals and others who voted for Obortion O?

Has Obama Lost the Catholic Left?

Obama won the overall religious vote, 52 percent to 46 percent, reversing President George W. Bush’s 51 percent to 48 percent “values voter” victory over Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry in 2004. Obama also won the Catholic vote, persuaded young evangelical voters to choose him and began to squeeze shut the so-called “God gap” yawning between religious Democrats and Republicans during the Bush era.

How will the roughly 9.1 million evangelical Christians who voted for Obama vote in the next election? Will Obama's actions compel the 31.2 million evangelicals who didn't vote in the 2008 election to vote next time?

Obama Receives 77% of Jewish Vote-- More Than Kerry
White US Catholics move toward GOP, Hispanic Catholics toward Democrats
Among Catholics, Obama job approval rating decreases to 50 percent

[Salvation]

Many others denomination members will not be voting for Obama this time!

50 percent of Catholics (Catholics make up about 22 percent of the U.S. population.) approve of his presidency, down from 67 percent in his first six months in office.

DOWN 17 POINTS

 

among non-Catholic Christians, who make up 55 percent of the U.S. population, had fallen from 58 percent to 43 percent.

DOWN 15 POINTS

 

Mormon respondents, who represent about two percent of U.S. adults, fell from 43 percent to 26 percent

DOWN 17 POINTS

 

About 78 percent of Muslim respondents approved of the Obama presidency, down eight percentage points from when the question was first asked.  (86)

DOWN 8 POINTS

 

atheists, agnostics, and members of other non-Christian religions, who comprise about 13 percent of the U.S. population -- While about 75 percent of these respondents approved of President Obama at the start of his term, their approval declined to about 64 percent.

DOWN 11 POINTS

 

Jews were the religious group third likeliest to approve of President Obama, giving him 61 percent approval. This too is a decline: in January-June 2009, their approval rating of the president was 77 percent.

DOWN 16 POINTS

 

Overall, 48 percent of Americans approve of President Obama’s job, down from 63 percent in the first months of his presidency. Gallup claims that its survey of over 276,000 adults claims an overall margin of error of plus or minus one percent.

DOWN 15 POINTS

 

 

 

 

[dsc]

“Plus, they already taught many Catholic that loyalty to the Democrats is more important than loyalty to the Church.”

Not exactly.

One of Satan’s attacks on the Church was to sell the notion that leftism is compatible with the Bible; that Catholic “social justice” is the same as leftard “social justice.”

A leftist is a leftist before all else. A leftist who mistakenly thinks herself a Catholic will indeed put communism before the Church.

A Catholic won’t.