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Son, 15, admits killing his Oakland parents (Occupy kid?)
Oakland Tribune ^ | January 30, 2012 | Harry Harris and Chris De Benedetti

Posted on 01/30/2012 1:52:45 PM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: Navy Patriot
Here's the gushy opening to a story about the shack-up couple from the SF Chronicle:

Friends and relatives said Susan Poff and Robert Kamin of Oakland were the perfect pair to adopt a foster child.

And why not? They were "passionate advocates for the poor," after all, even if they themselves couldn't afford a marriage license.

21 posted on 01/30/2012 4:54:01 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98

What could possibly go wrong?


22 posted on 01/30/2012 5:00:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Friends and relatives said Susan Poff and Robert Kamin of Oakland were the perfect pair to adopt a foster child.

They had dedicated their careers to helping others escape poverty, she as a physician assistant in a city-run clinic in the Tenderloin and he as a clinical psychologist for inmates in the San Francisco County Jail system.

But now, less than a decade after they adopted, their 15-year-old son stands accused of strangling both Poff, 50, and Kamin, 55, then hiding their bodies in the back of the family’s PT Cruiser…

Co-workers said Poff and Kamin were having some arguments with their son, some of it having to do with him spending too much time in the Occupy Oakland encampment, but nothing that sounded beyond the scope of typical teenage rebelliousness.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/


23 posted on 01/30/2012 5:06:05 PM PST by kcvl
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To: TigersEye
An unmarried couple are allowed to be foster parents? Must be another liberal thing.

Well, they're not the perfectly ideal couple in the San Francisco Bay Area for foster parents or adoption.

That would be a homosexual couple meeting the following criteria: They must have been married by Gavin Newsome when it was illegal for a same sex couple to be wed in California. Both must be transgendered homosexuals who have completed the process as public employees and at public health care expense. Both must be cross dressing individuals from their elected sexual identity. Both must be public school graduates, have a valid monthly Muni bus pass and medical marijuana card. Neither may have ever possessed a hunting license from any state.

24 posted on 01/30/2012 5:10:48 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: madprof98
All the things this couple thought unimportant and let slide told their kid that the only thing that counted were HIS feelings not honor, ethics, loyalty, commitment, truth, honesty, or their lives.

Very sad.

25 posted on 01/30/2012 5:21:10 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Navy Patriot

Very good take ... just needed to be written in past tense. ;-(


26 posted on 01/30/2012 9:07:49 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yes, I am sure you have aptly described them.

Perhaps you can tutor the idiotic writer of the original piece. Apparently, the ability to construct coherent sentences is no longer a requirement for employment in journalism. Amazing.


27 posted on 01/31/2012 6:12:00 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Navy Patriot; mickie
I'm waiting with some curiosity for more information on how a 15 year-old child strangles two apparently healthy and active adult parents.....obviously one at a time, but I wonder under what twist of circumstances/method did this criminal oddity occur.

Perhaps the son wasn't the only one involved....hmmmm.

Leni

28 posted on 01/31/2012 6:41:59 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
This couple adopted the boy ten years ago at age five.

They did provide good support and I'm sure lots of love. Among that support was a Charter school (usually much higher quality than standard public school), and near a decade of Karate training.

All tools CAN be misused by an individual.

29 posted on 01/31/2012 8:24:00 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Bigg Red
Perhaps you can tutor the idiotic writer of the original piece.

This is the modern San Francisco Bay Area. The San Francisco Examiner, while doing well at clawing it's way back to relevancy has just been sold (again) and immediately dove back into the cesspool of far left wing lunacy that it had so recently emerged from.

PC has replaced the Who, What, When, Where, and How of proper news reporter journalism with tortured sentences contorted to avoid uncomfortable facts.

I remember when we had real journalists, and several great writers.

Plus, I have a terminal case of snark, and the beer doesn't help anymore.

30 posted on 01/31/2012 8:59:49 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Navy Patriot

...terminal case of snark, and the beer doesn’t help anymore.

&&&
:) Describes far too many of us these days, I fear. Parlous times....


31 posted on 01/31/2012 9:45:06 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Just my opinion, but the (Occupy kid?) is a little gratuitous.


32 posted on 01/31/2012 9:46:49 AM PST by GSWarrior (I don't like half the people I love.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Or maybe it’s not gratuitous. More will be revealed, I am certain. Just a tragic turn of events.


33 posted on 01/31/2012 9:50:35 AM PST by GSWarrior (I don't like half the people I love.)
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As it turns out, the final disagreement this kid had with his parents before the murders was the excessive amount of time he was spending supporting the Occupy protesters at their camp and in their demonstrations.

This fact was eventually sourced from more than two separate sources.

It was not a tragic turn of events, Occupy and their ilk is on a par with MS-13, the Black Panthers (new or old), al Queda or the Bolshevik Communists. Their policy is murder for the purpose of theft. The parents were just too leftist to admit it to themselves, and their kid was susceptible to the indoctrination because he had not been prepared by those same parents. This was entirely predictable.

34 posted on 01/31/2012 10:55:34 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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I would consider getting killed by an offspring a tragic event.

I live 3 blocks from Ogawa Plaza in Oakland. I know what Occupy is all about. It is a war against capitalism, the free market and America in general.

I saw the marchers on Saturday. Looked like every other Occupy Oakland protest. I don't buy the argument that Occupy Oakland has been co-opted by radical elements. People who show up just to march and decide to leave before things turn violent are just as responsible, IMO.

35 posted on 01/31/2012 11:07:50 AM PST by GSWarrior (I don't like half the people I love.)
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I would consider getting killed by an offspring a tragic event.

I said it was not a tragic TURN of events.

It was a tragic event, just predictable, not an unexpected turn...

I don't buy the argument that Occupy Oakland has been co-opted by radical elements. People who show up just to march and decide to leave before things turn violent are just as responsible, IMO.

I agree, and that is one of the facts that I considered in deeming the actions of this boy predictable.

36 posted on 01/31/2012 11:28:35 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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They had dedicated their careers to helping others escape poverty, she as a physician assistant in a city-run clinic in the Tenderloin and he as a clinical psychologist for inmates in the San Francisco County Jail system.

What are the odds that either of them would have showed up for work if they knew they were not going to get a government check every two weeks.

Everybody has a job. If somebody gets paid for doing a public service job, his actions are no more laudatory than the person who gets paid for digging a ditch. They are both in it for the money.

37 posted on 01/31/2012 2:50:11 PM PST by Haiku Guy (As soon as Romney / Is not "inevitable" / He drops like a stone)
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To: Navy Patriot; mickie
I believe you completely misread my post. I'm curious how the boy PHYSICALLY was able to strangle two healthy adults without one or the other being able to overcome him or escape....or what.

I wonder if he shot them or drugged them first.....or what.

I was musing about the odd scenario.

Leni

38 posted on 01/31/2012 6:09:35 PM PST by MinuteGal
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The boy is Moses Kamin and more reports indicate:

(Moses) Kamin ran away to protest with Occupy Oakland. Authorities also speculate he may have attempted to burglarize his own home and stolen a family car, reported the Oakland Tribune. It is not clear when he returned home, but last Wednesday he was suspended from school.

Then, around 6 p.m., police say, Kamin and his mother got into an argument about the suspension, and he strangled and killed her. He hid her body in a dark room and waited for his father to return home. He attacked him from behind, killing him.

39 posted on 02/01/2012 9:38:28 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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