'Birthers' Nonsense Sets Georgia Up For Ridicule -- Again

Columbus (GA) Ledger-Enquirer ^ | January 27, 2012

[transducer]

We will risk the fairly safe assumption, as this is being written, that Air Force One did not make an appearance at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport sometime Thursday....

You almost have to laugh at this latest chapter in the seemingly endless “birther” saga, because about the only alternatives at this point are tears and/or nausea.

It was embarrassing enough when members of the Georgia legislature -- including, to Columbus’ acute humiliation, two members of the local delegation -- drafted a “Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act” in the last legislative session.

Now Georgians get to enjoy the added spectacle of their secretary of state, Brian Kemp, warning the president (let that sink in -- warning the president) through a White House attorney that failure to appear in a Georgia court would be “at your own peril.”...

Peach Pundit editor Charlie Harper, in a blog published this week in the Savannah Morning News, wrote: “This is a mistake. We are taught from a young age that we will be judged by the company we keep … The birther argument transcends disagreements of policy and politics and spirals into pure nuttery.” How true.

Georgia, no thanks to some judgment-impaired officials and certainly without the consent of the governed, has been slumming in the Orly Taitz nuttery neighborhood way too long. Please, for the sake of the state’s already battered image, let’s just quietly tiptoe out of this putrid political ghetto and back to the daylight side of town before we attract any more ridicule....

[douginthearmy]

At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

A child born in a country to a mother who was its citizen and a sperm donor of unknown origin is a child of a citizen. Another child born in a country to a mother who was a citizen and a sperm donor of unknown origin is also a child of a citizen. One child born in a country of a parent who was its citizen plus one child born in a country of a parent who was its citizen equals "children born in a country of parents who were its citizens".

You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?

[backwoods-engineer]

A NBC is someone born in the US. Period.

Bullcrap.

Stop spreading lies on FR, Obot troll.

[philman_36]

He was ruled a citizen who did not need to be naturalized to become a citizen...

He was deemed a citizen ...by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution...

You even give it away with your own words...He was ruled a citizen...
You didn't say "He was ruled a natural born citizen..."

[Ratman83]

EricYou may want to rethink your camment.

[Ratman83]

Let me try again. Eric

Until the 14th Amendment was passed you could be born in the US and not be a citizen (slaves).

So you may want to rethink your comment.

[backwoods-engineer]

You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?

Thanks for admitting to the logical errors of conflating issues and appeal to authority.

But I will answer anyway, since I'm in such a fine mood.

Mark Levin castigates those who say Obama wasn't born here, and therefore needs to be impeached. I don't hold with that, either, since

a) Obama already holds the office, and

b) Obama isn't a natural-born citizen, which holds constitutional priority over how pretty his birth certificate is.

The 2012 election is another chance. If Obama is not an NBC, he should not be on any state ballot for President, and if elected in that state, should not be certified by the Secretary of State for that state. End of story.

[editor-surveyor]

This article is Afterbirther flapdoodle for sure, Mr. Retread freeper.

How long will it be before you get zotted again?

[Bigun]

Thanks but I don’t think one needs to be on fire in order to be able to read and interpret the English with some clarity.

You seem to have that ability as well and that is a GOOD thing for our country!

[little jeremiah]

You forgot “Natural Born Citizen”.

[editor-surveyor]

If I remember correctly, this turd was zotted for threatening to sue Jim for some alleged ‘libel’ by another freeper on a CrEvo thread.

[Menehune56]

Looks like he finally got zotted - took awhile didn’t it!

[USCG SimTech]

Review these 3 cases after reading the constitutions original intent by the founding fathers here:

http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

Book 1 Chapter XIX

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
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Then tell me birthers are wrong.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/minorvhapp.html

MINOR v. HAPPERSETT
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
88 U.S. 162; 21 Wall. 162
OCTOBER, 1874, Term
[Unanimous decision of the Supreme Court holding that the Constitution of the United States
does not guarantee to women the right to vote in federal elections.]
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http://supreme.justia.com/us/143/135/case.html

BOYD V. NEBRASKA EX REL. THAYER, 143 U. S. 135 (1892)
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U.S. Supreme Court
Boyd v. Nebraska ex Rel. Thayer, 143 U.S. 135 (1892)
Boyd v. Nebraska ex Rel. Thayer
No. 1208
Argued December 8, 1891
Decided February 1, 1892
143 U.S. 135
ERROR TO THE SUPREME COURT
OF THE STATE OF NEBRASKA
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http://supreme.justia.com/us/193/621/

POPE V. WILLIAMS, 193 U. S. 621 (1904)
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Pope v. Williams, 193 U.S. 621 (1904)
Pope v. Williams
No. 603
Argued March 8-9, 1904
Decided April 4, 1904
193 U.S. 621
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[editor-surveyor]

Transducer has had his jolt (again, retread)

[Bigun]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Period!

[backwoods-engineer]

Great post. I will have to go back and read that full paper. Which founding father was this? Hamilton?

[GregNH]

This account has been banned or suspended.

[MMaschin]

You might have a closer look at the parentage of America’s past presidents. If what you suggest is correct, there’s been a whole lot of violating going on.

Really?

Care to show me ONE/ANY/A SINGLE president, born after the Constitution was ratified, who at the time of their birth had a parent who was not a US citizen?

And forget about Chester A. Author, he claimed, and provided evidence that his father was naturalized before his birth - even destroyed his families historical records to make ssure noone could prove otherwise.

You CAN'T - because EVERY other US president besides Obama was born of TWO US citizen parents.

[Vendome]

All right, stoopid.

Let’s work this thing backward.

Let’s start with a lawful demand to appear in a legally constituted court, in the United States of America and a Georgia venue.

(Little wordy but what the hell. By now you are gone anyway)

[Georgia Girl 2]

You got that right. GA will likely end up being known as the mouse that roared. Right now there are about 4-5 other states thinking about keeping Obozo off the ballot and they are watching our case closely.

The truth of the matter is that Barack Obama never was eligible to run for President and through some unspoken agreement both parties aided and abetted by the MSM looked the other way and allowed him to get elected. Obama was never adequately vetted. He has many secrets that he has gone to extreme lengths to keep hidden for 3 years now. Finally the vetting is beginning.

Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal are also not eligible as natural born citizens and they should not be allowed to run for VP or President. They can serve their country in other ways.

My personal belief is that if GA decides to keep Barry off the ballot he will never appeal it higher than the GA state supreme court because he is afraid he will lose if he takes it to the Supremes. Besides the fact that his father was not a US citizen there must be some problem with his original birth certificate. Otherwise he could have had his attorney just show up with the original and the judge might have gone for it. He has most likely produced a forgery for the public and his lawyer is probably hesitant to carry forged docs to a judge.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

You might want to invest in a dictionary.