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Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
The American Dream ^ | 1-26-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/26/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by blam

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To: Silentgypsy

When you drink vodka over ice, it can give you kidney failure.
When you drink rum over ice, it can give you liver failure.
When you drink whisky over ice, it can give you heart problems.
When you drink gin over ice, it can give brain problems.

Who knew ice is poisonus. Warn all your friends.


201 posted on 01/27/2012 7:20:01 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Silentgypsy; patton; netmilsmom

For 10 years minus some months I’ve only had hot water heating on my woodstove (not a cookstove, just a heating stove) for hot water. In the summer I heat it on my electric stove. Hub has promised for a long time to rig something up. He’s getting close, going to wrap copper pipe around the stove pipe and store the hot water in an old hot water heater on the second floor, and it will run gravity to the bathroom and hopefully kitchen.

He’s researched some other do it yourself hot water heaters, my favorite besides a solar one, is the method of getting an old hot water heater, welding it onto a large truck tire rim (or maybe car tire would work), making a small fire box, and heating it that way. Of course pipes coming and going have to be engineered into it. He found a good website he’s going to follow directions from. That will be for summer hot water. We have so many trees we don’t have an area near the house with hours of sunlight.

He put an ad on Craigslist for non working hot water heater tanks, he got 5 I think. Umm, just realized Craigslist deleted the ad for some reason so we put it in the local paper. He got the tanks for free.


202 posted on 01/27/2012 8:27:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Travis McGee

The only promise is none of us “survive” - at least in the mortal frames. Life is a test!


203 posted on 01/27/2012 8:28:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: jpsb
A cheap way to go is a pressure cooker still (that is a link to a youtube video) I built mine off of another video that has apparently been removed.

Mine was built using a pressure cooker I picked up at a yard sale for 5 bucks and a 5 gallon plastic bucket (I used an old compound spackling bucket) I got some flexible copper tubing from the hardware store drilled a hole in the center of the lid (right where I'd removed the steam pressure outlet) then I used some fittings I got at the hardware store.

You coil the tubing in the 5 gallon bucket I used fittings to plumb the end of the tubing to exit the side of the bucket at the bottom and used an old fashion metal faucet on the outside of the bucket.

The other end of the tubing is connected to the pressure cooker. the idea of a distiller is to convert the liquids to gas and force it out the tube which goes through the sump (sump = the 5 gallon bucket filled with ice or very cold water) traveling through the sump via the copper tubing the gas is cooled back into liquid and is thus distilled.

The Distiller in that above video is a bit more elaborate but I made mine for about thirty bucks (flexible copper tubing is expensive and the fitting aren't cheap either)

I made mine because our local water system is virtually on the verge of imploding. They need something like 10 million bucks just to fix the system and our town doesn't have the cash so I figure I better have something setup so we can have drinking water. I've made 4 so far for myself and several for friends and family.

204 posted on 01/27/2012 9:05:05 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

For those of you who want to survive after all stock ups have run out, Google “ global buckets” then go and search for it on you tube.
I start this tomorrow.


205 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:25 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

For those of you who want to survive after all stock ups have run out, Google “ global buckets” then go and search for it on you tube.
I start this tomorrow.


206 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:37 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Thanks, I will keep my eye out for an old pressure cooker. I have 2 but they both work so I kinda want to keep them since pressure cookers (stainless steel) are getting real expensive. I have a water well so I am not too worry about water, but whiskey in a SHTF situation would be a good thing to be able to produce.


207 posted on 01/27/2012 9:50:57 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Donnafrflorida

looks good, I might try a few. I have a good size garden and a small green house but I’m always interested in new ideas and I hate weeds and weeding. thanks for the tip.


208 posted on 01/27/2012 10:04:17 PM PST by jpsb
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To: metmom

Yes. Move to Ave Maria.
http://www.avemarialiving.com


209 posted on 01/27/2012 11:29:44 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: metmom

Yes. Move to Ave Maria.
http://www.avemarialiving.wordpress.com


210 posted on 01/27/2012 11:32:20 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Mad Dawgg

Double coil he uses with pump needlessly complex - plumb the worm out the side of the cooling barrell.

Needs a thumper between the prssure cooker and the worm - it removes the solids (when not using the wastefull method he is - cooking the mash in a carboy). A thumper is a NON-GLASS container with two holes in the top - steam goes in one hole, solids drop to the bottom, pressure forces steam out the other hole and on toward the worm.

the 1st 5th of product will be poison - methynol - use it for fuel only.


211 posted on 01/28/2012 5:05:29 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: little jeremiah

The ole sears woodstoves had water heaters built into them.


212 posted on 01/28/2012 5:07:22 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Methanol boils at 149 F
ethanol at 172 F
Water at 212 F

So the product from 149 to 172 is pure poison
after that, is is a mix - so is the store-bought stuff

don’t let the cooker reach 212 F, or it will blow up


213 posted on 01/28/2012 5:20:37 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: cripplecreek
isolated from everywhere else.

Except for starving Canucks storming the beaches.

Them, and the ghosts of Ernest McSorley et. al.

214 posted on 01/28/2012 5:51:29 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: cripplecreek
Looks like a nice little town...similar to the one I live about four miles out from. Since moving to the country I could not imagine living in even a small town any more. But there are times you just need to go into town...
215 posted on 01/28/2012 6:45:06 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: dangerdoc

We made the move around eight years ago. Milking goats are good...we have had them...but we prefer the family milk cow. Never could get used to the goat milk. The extra benefit is that we get to fill the freezer when the calf grows up...and they grow pretty fast when you let them nurse from their own mom...and their is plenty of milk left for my family. We also raise chickens...for both eggs and meat...as well as sheep, have done rabbits, ducks, turkeys and plan on doing a pig or two this summer. Yes, there are some great ways to convert the land into protein. It is very satisfying to open up one of the freezers and to be able to then make the decision...”what will I thaw out?”...beef, lamb, chicken, turkey, duck, or rabbit...and to know that it all came off of my land.


216 posted on 01/28/2012 7:09:32 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: metmom
The ping makes sense to me. As homeschoolers we have removed our children from public school partially because of the way culture has turned away from God and His standards. The same is true of how culture in the cities have done the same thing...which is no surprise since the vast majority of children are “educated” in the public school. So it makes sense that what we saw in the schools we are now seeing in the cities...where it is more concentrated then in rural areas...but it is still creeping in to the rural areas. Without a return to God we will see the collapse of our culture.
217 posted on 01/28/2012 7:19:21 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: patton

Yeah it is but getting up every 2 hours all night long to stick a single chunk of wood in it isn’t very practical.
[very long, narrow firebox]

My dad used to drive by on the way up to the cabin every morning and I’d be out in the yard splitting the day’s worth of firewood into quarters for that infernal stove....:))

I tried to use it for heating the kitchen for 1 winter and it was a major PITA...put in a regular wood stove, after that.

OTOH, you can’t imagine how good it baked bread and pies.

Must be something about the cast iron.


218 posted on 01/28/2012 7:40:49 AM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: blam
I live almost in the heart of Houston, I don't feel unsafe. We used to live in the country, out side of a small town. I did not feel safe there. Hi-way bums would come to the door, people with car trouble (I guess) asking to use the phone. Prison farms in the area with occasional escapes. I called the Sheriff about a guy wandering around our property and it took over an hour for them to get there.

Yeah, people in the city get broken into I see it on the news but when you get the details, they either left the door unlocked, or didn't set the burglar alarm, or didn't even have an alarm or a dog to warn them. At the very least get a BEWARE OF DOG sign! The burglars will go to the next house and leave you alone, unless you are way out in the country and there is no next house. Here I have, guns, dogs, good neighbors a burglar alarm and a panic alarm that will have HPD at my front door in 5 minutes. I know because I pushed the panic alarm by accident, less than 5 minutes there were 2 burly cops asking me what was wrong.

219 posted on 01/28/2012 7:48:12 AM PST by Ditter
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To: patton

Lead poisoning killed my ‘shiner grandaddy back in the 30s.

He *almost* made it across Rattle Run and into PA but the bullet was quicker than him.

Right in the back, all because there were no jobs and he had a wife and 3 kids to feed, one of whom had a heart defect.

She dropped dead in the farm lane a few years later.

[ain’t sayin’ nuthin’ about the ‘genetics’ of the family]

:)


220 posted on 01/28/2012 7:49:10 AM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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