Posted on 01/26/2012 4:44:50 PM PST by blam
Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
January 26, 2011
As the U.S. economy falls apart and as the world becomes increasingly unstable, more Americans than ever are becoming "preppers". It is estimated that there are at least two million preppers in the United States today, but nobody really knows. The truth is that it is hard to take a poll because a lot of preppers simply do not talk about their preparations.
Your neighbor could be storing up food in the garage or in an extra bedroom and you might never even know it. An increasing number of Americans are convinced that we are on the verge of some really bad things happening.
But will just storing up some extra food and supplies be enough? What is going to happen if we see widespread rioting in major U.S. cities like George Soros is predicting? What is going to happen if the economy totally falls to pieces and our city centers descend into anarchy like we saw in New Orleans during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina? In some major U.S. cities such as Detroit, looting is already rampant.
There are some sections of Detroit where entire blocks of houses are being slowly dismantled by thieves and stripped of anything valuable. Sadly, the economy is going to get a lot worse than it is at the moment. So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities? Should preppers be seeking safer locations for themselves and their families? Those are legitimate questions.
According to a recent Gallup poll, satisfaction with the government is now at an all-time low. Americans are rapidly losing faith in virtually every major institution in society.
Anger and frustration are rising to very dangerous levels, and we are rapidly approaching a boiling point.
When people feel as though they have lost everything, they get desperate.
And desperate people do desperate things.
In many communities in the United States today, crime has become so terrifying that people are literally sleeping with their guns.
The following is a story from Rancho Cordova, California that one of my readers recently sent me....
When I first moved here, it was not a bad place, it was quiet and clean.
However, over the past three years this place has gone to the dumps there are thugs and unruly people everywhere.
I have prevented two car break-ins by scaring these thugs away.
While I was home on thanksgiving weekend, someone decided to break into my apartment.
They trashed my place stole all my items and even took my law enforcement (LE) vehicle to include my equipment.
I m sure they had been watching me for a while because they did not take items that contained my identification.
Thank god, I had my weapon with me.
In many areas of the country, law enforcement resources are being dramatically cut back due to budget problems at the same time that crime is rapidly rising.
Right now, the city of Detroit is teetering on the verge of bankruptcy. Officials there recently announced that due to budget constraints, all police stations will be closed to the public for 16 hours a day. From now on, they will only be open to the public from 8 AM to 4 PM.
But in Detroit the police are needed now more than ever. The following is what one British reporter found during his visit to Detroit....
Much of Detroit is horribly dangerous for its own residents, who in many cases only stay because they have nowhere else to go. Property crime is double the American average, violent crime triple. The isolated, peeling homes, the flooded roads, the clunky, rusted old cars and the neglected front yards amid trees and groin-high grassland make you think you are in rural Alabama, not in one of the greatest industrial cities that ever existed.
The population of Detroit is less than half of what it used to be. Over the past few decades people have left in droves, and large sections of the city are in an advanced state of decay.
Not too many people want to buy homes in Detroit now. At this point, the median price of a home in Detroit is just $6000.
The following video contains some video footage of the "ruins of Detroit" that is hard to believe.....
(Go to the site to see a video)
Detroit has become a very scary place. 100 bus drivers in Detroit recently refused to drive their routes out of fear of being attacked on the streets. The head of the bus drivers union, Henry Gaffney, said that the drivers were literally "scared for their lives"....
“Our drivers are scared, they’re scared for their lives. This has been an ongoing situation about security. I think yesterday kind of just topped it off, when one of my drivers was beat up by some teenagers down in the middle of Rosa Parks and it took the police almost 30 minutes to get there, in downtown Detroit,” said Gaffney.
But it is not just Detroit that is having these kinds of problems.
In Cleveland, over 50 percent of all children are living in poverty and abandoned houses are everywhere.
The city has already demolished about 1,000 homes, and there is a plan to demolish 20,000 more homes. The following comes from a recent CBS News report by Scott Pelley....
Perfectly good homes, worth 75, 100 thousand dollars or more a couple of years ago, are being ripped to splinters in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Here, the great recession left one fifth of all houses vacant. The owners walked away because they couldn't or wouldn't keep paying on a mortgage debt that can be twice the value of the home. Cleveland waited four years for home values to recover and now they've decided to face facts and bury the dead.
Down in St. Louis they have a different problem. In some of the worst areas of the city, roving packs of wild dogs are a serious threat to children that are walking to school. A recent report by the local CBS affiliate in St. Louis described the situation this way....
...Lewis Reed is sounding the alarm. "I’ve witnessed packs of dogs, 10 and 15 dogs running together, and I’ve seen all these dogs I’m talking about they don’t have collars, they don’t have tags, these are truly wild dogs," he said.
Reed says stray dogs are terrorizing the north side. "It’s obscene that parents have to walk their kids to school, in some parts of the city, with a golf club to fend off wild dogs."
How would you feel if you had to fend off wild packs of dogs as you walked your child to school?
These kinds of conditions can be found out on the west coast as well.
For example, there is an area of San Francisco that is known as "Hunter's Point" that is an absolute nightmare. In Hunter's Point, over half of the population lives in poverty and more than half of all children live in a home where there is no father present. The following is what one reporter discovered on a visit to Hunter's Point....
Abernathy and I cut through the complex, tromping over an expanse of dirt and concrete toward the northeast end of the development, where a row of apartments looked down from a grassy hill. We paused next to a vacant, boarded-over unit to take in the scene: A stream of ****, piss, tampons, and toilet paper spewed from a dark hole in the sidewalk, poured down the hill, and formed a sort of **** lagoon next to the street. Weeds, about six inches tall, were growing in the little lagoon.
Raw ****, obviously, is not cool. Beyond the fact that it smells and looks nasty, fecal matter provides a haven for dangerous bacteria, most notably E. coli, a virulent pathogen that can sicken and even kill humans, especially infants.
When conditions like this reign, it is a prime breeding ground for crime.
In major U.S. cities all over the United States, drug dealing, gang activity and prostitution are on the rise. The following comes from a recent article in the New York Times....
In November, a terrified 13-year-old girl pounded on an apartment door in Brooklyn. When a surprised woman answered, the girl pleaded for a phone. She called her mother, and then dialed 911.
The girl, whom I’ll call Baby Face because of her looks, frantically told police that a violent pimp was selling her for sex. He had taken her to the building and ordered her to go to an apartment where a customer was waiting, she said, and now he was waiting downstairs to make sure she did not escape. She had followed the pimp’s directions and gone upstairs, but then had pounded randomly on this door in hopes of getting help.
In some major U.S. cities, the gangs have virtually taken over. In an article entitled "City of Ruins", Chris Hedges described what life is like today in Camden, New Jersey....
There are perhaps a hundred open-air drug markets, most run by gangs like the Bloods, the Latin Kings, Los Nietos and MS-13. Knots of young men in black leather jackets and baggy sweatshirts sell weed and crack to clients, many of whom drive in from the suburbs. The drug trade is one of the city's few thriving businesses. A weapon, police say, is never more than a few feet away, usually stashed behind a trash can, in the grass or on a porch.
As I wrote about the other day, the FBI says that there are now 1.4 million gang members inside this country. That number has increased by 40 percent since 2009.
Organized criminal behavior by groups of young people is on the rise all over the nation. Just check out this video which shows a flash mob robbery happening in Montgomery County, Maryland.
Sadly, this is just the beginning.
This country is still enjoying a tremendous amount of prosperity. We still have a very high standard of living compared to most of the rest of the world.
So how nightmarish are things going to get when the economy gets really bad?
The most frightening thing is when these criminals start invading private homes.
The following home invasion story from Sacramento, California was sent to me by one of my readers a while back....
Somebody got into my sister's house last night while she was out. My mom was upstairs, but didn't hear anything. Whoever it was, they ate some chips and sorted through a stack of maternity clothes my sister had ready for selling on ebay. He left a dirty pair of boxer shorts and a bottom dentures on the dining room table. Fortunately, he was gone when she got home. I'm amazed, but the police actually came out and collected fingerprints and his boxers and false teeth. Probably a homeless guy. He may have switched his dirty boxers for a clean pair of maternity jeans, so the police just have to look for a guy wearing women's maternity pants with no lower teeth.
Because of stuff like this, an increasing number of Americans have decided that it is better to be armed.
The truth is that you never know when you will get jumped.
For example, in Pennsylvania the other day one 65-year-old man was suddenly knocked off his bicycle by three teen thugs.
The 65-year-old man responded by pulling out his gun and shooting two of them. One of the teens was killed.
Down along the border with Mexico, many ranchers have discovered that a gun battle could potentially erupt on any night. The federal government has refused to protect the border, and so millions of illegals just keep streaming on in. The following was recently posted on standwitharizona.com....
Barbed wire fencing doesn’t keep illegal aliens off the property anymore. One Starr County, TX rancher doesn’t have time to worry about the illegals these days. He now worries about the smugglers protecting their loads.
“I don’t think they would have any conscience of taking someone’s life,” the rancher says.
He saw that will to kill firsthand. A smuggler shot at him on his own land.
“One round was fired at me, and it missed my head by about two feet,” says the rancher.
He says there’s only way to react.
“Fire all the rounds you have, reload, and do it again,” says the rancher.
The more stories like this you read, the easier it is to understand why more than 10 million guns were sold in the United States during 2011.
The truth is that you never know when you may need to defend yourself.
This past New Year's Eve, a single mother named Sarah McKinley was home alone with her three-month old son when she discovered that two armed men were trying to invade her home. If she had not had a gun, there is no telling what might have happened. The following is from a news story about that incident....
An Oklahoma woman was recently home with her 3 month old son when two men tried to break in. Armed with a shot gun and a pistol she called 9-1-1.
Operator: "Are your doors locked?"
Caller: "Yes, I've got two guns in my hand. Is it ok to shoot him if he comes in this door?"
Operator: "I can't tell you what you can do but you do what you have to do to protect your baby."
The mother did shoot killing one of the intruders. Oklahoma police called the shooting justified.
What would you have done in that situation?
America is rapidly changing, and we all need to adapt to the new reality all around us.
The truth is that America is not the same place it used to be. In some U.S. cities, authorities are actually dumping dead bodies into mass graves.
Just check out what the Daily Mail says has been going on in Chicago....
It's a practice more closely associated with third world countries, but in bleak times in a Chicago-area suburb, 30 people were buried in a mass grave on Wednesday.
The pauper's burial section at Homewood Memorial Gardens was established for those who could not afford to pay for a burial plot.
And it is a problem that's sweeping America as tough economic times have led to an increase in the number of indigent burials the morgue must perform.
All over the country, major U.S. cities are flat broke and are rapidly decaying. They are filled with impoverished people that are rapidly becoming angrier and more frustrated.
There simply are not enough jobs for everyone. Millions of ordinary Americans spend their days agonizing over the fact that they cannot provide even a basic living for themselves and their families.
And as the economy gets even worse, the economic despair in this country is going to grow to unprecedented levels.
So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities?
In the end, each of us is going to have to answer that question for ourselves.
Jobs are scarce, so if you have a good job right now it may not be wise to give it up. It can be incredibly challenging to move to a new area when you don't have a job.
One solution may be to move farther away from your current job so that you are in a more rural setting. But the rising cost of gasoline can make that a very expensive proposition.
Some families are purchasing second homes that they can "bug out" to in the event of a major disaster or emergency. But if your financial resources are limited that may not be an option for you.
In the final analysis, you have just got to do the best you can with what you have.
But if you are able to move, it is better to do it while times are relatively stable (like now) than when times are very unstable.
So what do all of you think?
Do you think that now is the time to move away from major U.S. cities?
Don’t be so selfish.
Let a few through.
>:-]
I married a welder/metal fabricator.
[who is scary good at his work]
It’s one of the few jobs that never become obsolete.
[and everybody knows my family is “all crazy hillbillies” so we have that, too]
;D
I live in the western burbs of Atlanta...where we had biblical flooding in 2009. The hooch (Chattahoochie river) separates us from them. ITSHTF....we know that it will be vital to control the 6 bridges that cross the hooch into our county.
I live in the western burbs of Atlanta...where we had biblical flooding in 2009. The hooch (Chattahoochie river) separates us from them. ITSHTF....we know that it will be vital to control the 6 bridges that cross the hooch into our county.
When I moved into this almost 300 year old log house in 1990, I had no indoor plumbing at all.
I had a hand pumped cistern, an outhouse, an Oriole kitchen cook stove and a galvanized “bath tub” and bucket to heat my water in.
I considered myself lucky to have a few electric outlets in the house and a working telephone.
Summer was easy...winters a bit less so but it was doable.
Getting washed dishes rinsed good enough in the old dry sink was probably the hardest part.
The only weird part was having the dogs standing/lying around the kitchen cook stove watching me take a bath in that little tub.
I swear they were laughing at me.
:)
Just remember when the Soviets wanted to force peasants in wooded areas into compliance in the 30’s they just burned them out. I don’t think the tree huggers will have much of a voice if the SHTF.
My Grandmother did that - moved into a log cabin in NY, and plumbed/wired the place herself.
I wrote a paper about it in college, for which I got an “F”. Professor told me women were not that emancipated back when.
I let the professor live, but it was a close-run thing.
Gravity-fed systems work fine - one of the ealiest examples of plumbing-on-demand.
Your toiletette works that way, now. Just need a water supplu above the john.
>>I swear they were laughing at me.<<
LOL!
I’m filing that in the “need to remember” part of my brain.
I live in a Small Town in Southern Ohio. For two nights running I have been spending time walking the allies that surround my building in an attempt to discourage thieves who are trying to steal our air-conditioning units (they scrap them for the metals in them like copper)
I literally was in the alley with a shotgun two nights in a row (for protection being the thieves are druggies) and saw the same people twice. The police don't even bother sending a car it happens so often. They've stolen three of my neighbors units. I explained to the police and they told me if they advance on you back away and if they keep coming defend yourself. (I've got cameras covering the areas.) The wife is torn she sez its dangerous But we can't afford the hit it would put on our insurance if they steal it.
Crime has skyrocketed in our area due to these damned "pills" "oxy" "Perks" "X" and a slew of others... This is a freaking epidemic and the cops are overwhelmed (They catch them and bring 'em to court and the judge puts 'em on probation and they are right back out stealing and dealing and using within hours of release.)
They have become so brazen they will walk into people's houses during daylight hours and rummage through their medicine cabinets while people are at home.
it has become a bit scary
New Reality Series premiers soon: Doomsday Preppers No, I am not kidding...
I wasmore or less responding to the idea of living in cities when TSHTF but also that living close enough for easy travel from cities is IMHO not a safe idea, generally speaking of course. Travis McGee has posted a cube of relative locations and I agree with him. Another point about jobs is in a fairly severe SHTF situation there won’t be jobs very much. It’s already more and more in that territory. Again IMHO people who can seriously reduce spending and find some ways of garnering income without having to live in close proximity to large numbers of people would be wise to do so.
Ok, let’s get technical. How to make a cammode -
First, steal a cammode. Any one will do, doesn’t matter if it is low-flow, energy-saver, any of that. But making that complex porcelain thing is going to beyond anybody, in a zombie apocolypse.
Got the throne? Good, you are about done.
You next need three barrels ... if you plan to stay in the area. One, if not.
First, put a rain barrel above the john. Plumb it into the crapper’s water source. Dig a hole under the crapper, and you have a working john.
The one is for a rain barrell.
If you intend to stay ... you need two more barrels.
Plumb the waste from the crapper into the first, let it stew, then plumb it into the second all via a gravity-feed system - this is called a septic field. Let the second barrell leak, the waste goes away.
Ironically, years ago, ago, there was an article on FR - “Septic Fields Leak!”
Well, no stuff. That is what they are designed to do.
;)
“an Oriole kitchen cook stove “
What is that?
BTW, rural areas are also very easy targets...Few or no neighbors, few witnesses, few or no prying eyes or cameras...People leave their doors unlocked, everyone is trusting, etc...All the things criminals like.
In my rural area, and many in the western and I guess southern parts of the US (I’m in the west), many, many people are armed, for one thing. I hear people target practicing all the time. A nice, soothing sound. The criminal types around here are known and will not be able to take control. Many people here have gardens and of course there are hundreds of thousands, actually millions, of acres of mountains and national forests all over the place. There is basically one road through the valley and people have definitely considered how to block it off if need be.
We also have a strong Contsitutionalist County Sheriff who is right now attending a large meeting of Sheriffs in Las Vegas to formulate how to protect citizens from the illegal encroachment of the fedgov; and he has personally stood up against such encroachment in our county.
Depending on jobs in populated areas is all very well when there are jobs, EBT cars and all utilities and all the stores are open. Take some of those away, and the picture changes.
The Amazon? surely you jest.
Can I move by you if it hits? :)
I much prefer a composting toilet that uses no water, as described in “Humanure”. The book is online. We used one for at least a year. Works well, little to no odor at all, everything composts nicely. Just need a bunch of buckets and composting materials that can anything from sawdust (raw lumber, not kiln dried), leaf mould, leaves, dirt, chipper shredder stuff, etc.
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