I do not accept abortionist who have “realized” the error of their ways. This trash aborted 2 kids and now that she is suddenly calling for life we appluad her? Negative. Now that the act is done, she is suddenly pro life...I am very not convinced her and other abortionist wouldn’t again kill their unborn if the opportunity presented themselves. By telling them we accept them, we are kind of perpetuating the problem ourselves. Having a murderer speak on our behalf on this issue infuriates me. The fact we ask murderers to speak for us is disgusting.
Wow. It’s a good thing you’re not God.
Must be nice to be without sin. I know I’m not worthy of the Lord’s mercy because, unlike you, I’m a sinner.
Paul was an accessory to murder, if not a murderer directly, but God used him anyway.
Interesting, have you ever read the Bible?
Read chapters 7 and 9 of Acts sometime.
The Apostle Paul was the worst of the worst, yet his conversion was INSTANTANEOUS.
There are tens of millions of women in America who have aborted children, if we aren't willing to forgive and embrace them we have no chance of ever succeeding.
Only God knows the hearts of men. If she is not truly repentant then He knows and will deal accordingly.
Perhaps she is trying to make expiation as best she can under the circumstances.
In any case, she does not speak for me or anyone else; only herself.
But I am glad that God is merciful to the repentant sinner.
The reason we do not permit relatives of victims to sit on juries is that we fear that they will view things emotionally rather than rationally. Being male, and only really knowing one female at the time of her pregnancies well enough to begin to generalize (She's a grandma now!) I might be off the wall here but pregnancy, especially the first one right after the woman knows, is an extremely emotional time. I think it's precisely why women shouldn't be allowed to kill at this time. (I'd extend it to any time too, but everyone who favors abortion favors early abortions, and so that's why I make the point I do here.)
ML/NJ
I guess Jesus was wrong then when he spoke to St. Dismas, the Penitent Thief.
Luke 18:9-14
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Yea, how dare Saul change his name to defend the man who’s followers he murdered.
The Hippocrit! /s
We forgive those who see the error of their ways, which one of us have nOt sinned?
I am more pro life then most people I know. I even believe abortion is wrong in the case of incest or rape.
I am the product of a rape, had abortion been legal when I was born in the 1950’s, then I would not be here today.
However, I forgive her, and I thank God that she has seen the truth before she had more abortions.
Shame on you, shame on you for not forgiving.
I guess you will be voting for Romney, because Newt is a sinning adulterer. Me, I forgive him, because like this woman, she asked God to forgive her. That is why Christ shed his blood on Calvary, so we can be forgiven.
“...I am very not convinced her and other abortionist wouldn’t again kill their unborn if the opportunity presented themselves.”
I doubt very much that she would ever have another abortion. I don’t know where you get it that she’s just itching to slaughter another baby.
What would you have this woman do? Go hide out in her home forever in shame?
Do you not believe that her sins will be forgiven?
Isn’t she, who knows the emotional pain that abortion causes, the ideal person to advance the pro-life message?
She made a mistake and she is admitting it. She and millions of women since Roe vs wade have made the same mistake.
“Having a murderer speak on our behalf on this issue infuriates me”.
I understand you are upset with her decision to kill her two babies but think about this for a moment.... What this young woman has to say about her life is extremely important. She can illustrate her poor lifestyle choices and how abortion affected her life negatively. Plus, she can shed some light on just how abortion clinics and society verbally manipulate them into thinking that abortion is their only choice and a “simple procedure” to remedy a situation so she can go on with her life. Many times, people in a certain situation respond better to someone who has been in their shoes. Will a sixteen year old unwed girl listen more to a middle aged woman (with three kids and who has never had an abortion) or will they respond more to a younger person who made a horrible decision that she will regret forever?
If pro-life people ridicule, humiliate and refuse to accept a repentent person, then we simply show we have no feelings whatsoever to people who have made a horrible decision and changed later. Instead of embracing them into a community that is pro-life, should we shun them? If so, many other women will never discuss how abortion negatively affected their life. If this occurs, the pro-choice crowd wins... it solidifies the “it’s only tissue and not a baby” sentiment that is used so much.
You never heard of repentance?
Those who are blinded by the lies of Satan are blinded. They can't see the truth until God opens their eyes. There but for the grace of God go I. Or you. Or any of us.
There is just so much wrong with your condemnation of her that I hardly know where to begin.
However, these words come to mind.....
Matthew 5:7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Matthew 9:13 Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Matthew 6:14-15 14 For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, 15 but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Mark 11:25 And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”
The fact we ask murderers to speak for us is disgusting.
And you're not perfect either.
God didn't think it was disgusting.....
Moses
David
Paul
Matthew 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
On the contrary, she is an incredible witness to God’s forgiveness and healing. It’s hard enough to reach women damaged by the Big Lie. They are too ashamed to reach for help from anyone because others will condemn them instead of help them find salvation through Christ on the Cross.
Thankfully, she doesn’t have to answer to anyone now but God.
BloodAngel, This somehow seems personal to you? Have you been hurt deeply in some way that you cannot see your way to forgiving someone who reminds you of your own hurt for some reason? Your response suggests that there is something more to it than you have written.
True. It says to other women, "Go ahead and abort, and when you have aborted as many babies as you want to, you can say that you've changed to being against it, and the pro-life movement will call you a hero."
Having a murderer speak on our behalf on this issue infuriates me.
As well it should.
The fact we ask murderers to speak for us is disgusting.
Yes it is.
And every speaking engagement that goes to someone who aborted could instead go to someone who faced tough circumstances and didn't abort.
>> This trash aborted 2 kids and now that she is suddenly calling for life we appluad her?
I agree the applauding is off-putting.
>> By telling them we accept them, we are kind of perpetuating the problem ourselves. The fact we ask murderers to speak for us is disgusting.
They’re not speaking for us, they’re speaking for those in the womb.
By the way, abortion is legal killing.