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Dole Goes Nuclear (Against Gingrich 3.0)
National Review Onlie ^ | NRO Staff

Posted on 01/26/2012 10:12:01 AM PST by Windy City Conservative

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To: Windy City Conservative

Of course since we know the ethics charges have been debunked, we can’t believe anything else he says. Not to mention the American Spectator article says Newt fought Dole when Dole wanted to leave the option of raising taxes in the 1984 party platform.

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/24/reagans-young-lieutenant/print

Specifically in focus was Gingrich’s fear that the Republican RINO/Establishment members on the Platform Committee — specifically this meant people like then-Kansas Senator Bob Dole (the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee) Connecticut Senator Lowell Weicker, and Virginia Senator John Warner — would somehow try and moderate the Reagan Revolution with calls for tax increases or somehow lessening the Reagan demand for American military superiority over the Soviet Union.

Gingrich’s fears were realized in spades. All hell broke loose as Senator Dole — carrying the prestige of the chairmanship of the Senate’s tax writing committee — insisted on an open-ended plank on taxes that would accept a tax increase as a “last resort.”

Newt Gingrich raised holy hell. What Dole was proposing was a violation of the Reagan 1980 platform, a gross violation of Reaganomics, and just plain dumb. With Democratic nominee Walter Mondale already out there pledging to raise taxes, this was effectively caving in to Mondale. Bob Dole, Newt snapped at one point, was nothing other than the “tax collector for the welfare state.”

Ouch.

This sentence was the proximate cause of the fury:

We therefore oppose any attempts to increase taxes which would harm the recovery and reverse the trend to restoring control of the economy to individual Americans.

At the insistence of Gingrich and Kemp and in an amendment proposed by Loeffler, a sentence that kept the door open for tax increases had a comma added to it after the word “taxes.”

The sentence now read subtly but considerably different: “We therefore oppose any attempts to increase taxes, which would harm the recovery and reverse the trend to restoring control of the economy to individual Americans.”

The Gingrich work product? Making certain that Ronald Reagan was not put on record leaving the door open for any more ill-fated tax increases. Dole was furious with the young Newt — and, it might be noted, recently made a point of endorsing Mitt Romney. Hmmmmm.


81 posted on 01/26/2012 10:30:17 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Bob Dole knows why Bob Dole lost in 98, Bob Dole knows Newt and Bob Dole likes Mitt, Bob Dole thinks Obama is a nice guy personally, Bob Dole dosen’t think Bob Dole would ever say anything bad about Obama, Bob Dole knows Obama and Bob Dole thinks only Mitt has the establishment behind him, because Bob Dole had the establishment behind him.

Need anymore be said?


82 posted on 01/26/2012 10:30:17 AM PST by qman
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To: rod1

Geeez - what’s wrong with these geezer ex-military types? You’d think they would know better. There’s no fool like an old fool, my old man used to say.


83 posted on 01/26/2012 10:30:30 AM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: miss marmelstein

;D


84 posted on 01/26/2012 10:30:35 AM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Phew! What an embarrassing death.


85 posted on 01/26/2012 10:30:48 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Windy City Conservative
He was a one-man-band who rarely took advice. It was his way or the highway.

And compared with today's regime, how would that change things?

86 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:18 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Salamander
"He wasn’t dead...just really stiff."


87 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:23 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Hey Bob, Dawgreg thanks you for your service to our country and now Dawgreg has a request of you Bob......please go away. Your time has come and gone and I mean that in the nicest way.....(well, kinda). :)


88 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:37 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

For forty years the Democrats held power. The Republicans occasionally were thrown a bone, given cover and some pork to keep their constituents quiet. Meanwhile the congress was enriching themselves at the expense of the nation. The centralized government kept growing and growing…

In 1980 Ronald Reagan is elected President. Newt Gingrich, elected in 1978, jointed with others to ally with President Reagan and build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority - the Reagan Revolution - which directly led to the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy

Gingrich becomes Speaker of the House and the Democrats went nuts! Budget cuts, less pork. For the first time in a very long time the Republicans actually had to govern and take responsibility. The Dems were outnumbered.

The 1998 budget was scheduled for a $1 Billion cut and congress saw the gravy train leaving the station. No more getting rich at the public’s expense.

So it became “get rid of Newt Gingrich” even to the extent of manufacturing lies about him. He was exonerated of all those phony ethics charges, but the media continues to smear him year after year after year.

And now, older and wiser, he is back with plans to shrink the size of government, devolve Federal power back to the States, and the corrupt in Washington, D.C., are AGAIN trying to save the status quo.

They see their gravy train leaving the station.

So all these old farts are coming out of woodwork to stop Newt Gingrich.

Senate Majority Leaders Robert Joseoh “Bob” Dole, Tom Daschle, George Mitchell, and Howard Baker Jr., in 2007 founded the Bipartisan Policy Center, a non-profit think tank that works to develop policies suitable for bipartisan support.

Besides Dole being involved in the Bipartisan Policy Center, his legacy also includes a commitment to combating hunger both in the United States and around the globe. In addition to numerous domestic programs, along with former Senator George McGovern (D-South Dakota), Dole created an international school lunch program through the George McGovern-Robert Dole International Food for Education and Child Nutrition Program, which helps fight child hunger and poverty by providing nutritious meals to children in schools in developing countries. This program has since led to greatly increased global interest in and support for school-feeding programs — which benefit girls and young women, in particular — and won McGovern and Dole the 2008 World Food Prize.

The older Republicans remember when courtesy and compromise was followed in Congress. It was the Democrats who’ve destroyed it and are in the process of destroying our Republic.

So, what are We going to do about it?


89 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:45 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I remember when Newt called Dole “the tax collector for the welfare state”.

I guess Dole is still pissed.


90 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:45 AM PST by Blado (Obama is a coprolite from the Late Soviet Era)
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To: Jeff Head; Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; ...

Dole’s little crack about the empty ice bucket was a symbol of frugality. Newt honored someone for saving wasted tax money and hoped that it could inspire more cost-saving ideas. British politicians tranitionally sat on wool to remind them of wool’s importance. Such a quaint tradition most likely went far to help bring Britain’s greatness.

I’ve never been a big fan of Newt because he was always dipping his toe in the old media’s pool. He’s a schemer, obviously. But I also believe he’s a well intended statesman. It’s too bad he isn’t tougher on the borders, but we’ve lost that issue in this primary.


91 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:53 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: reasonisfaith
"If anyone has trouble swallowing the fact that top radio personalities are in the tank for Romney, just take a moment to notice how they don’t discuss the Romney negatives. Starting with the Romney-Alinksy ties."

Exactly.

92 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:53 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
They are ALL coming out against Newt.

Crabs in a bucket. One starts to climb out, the others pull him back down.

93 posted on 01/26/2012 10:33:09 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: greyfoxx39
There are a gazillion Social Conservatives who are not part of the TEA Party who will vote Republican unless you guys decide you need to read them out of the party (which is what you do when you read the Republican party-base out of the party).

You must be careful how you position the battle.

To me it's very clear that it's a really rich guy who thinks the Republican party has so many weak sisters he can just buy his way into the nomination.

It's ROMANY vs. REPUBLICANS!

94 posted on 01/26/2012 10:33:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Windy City Conservative

3.0?

Didn’t realize there had been another update. Last I heard, he was at 2.0.


95 posted on 01/26/2012 10:33:52 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Tennessee Nana
I voted for Jack Kemp

Kemp was atrocious when he debated Gore.

96 posted on 01/26/2012 10:34:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

This is the Battle of the Bulge for RINOS.


97 posted on 01/26/2012 10:34:29 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I would consider what Dole has to say about Gingrich tthe equivalent of a major endorsement.


98 posted on 01/26/2012 10:34:44 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Cboldt

McCain, Romney, and Dole need to be photoshopped as the Three Amigos!


99 posted on 01/26/2012 10:35:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: All

This is turning out to be Barry Goldwater vs George Romney pizzing contest all over again.

The Conservatives(Goldwater) vs the Moderate(Mittens Father)

As in that one the Moderate never endorsed the Conservative. Goldwater lost.

Sheesh everyone get ready for Obammy 2.0.

Here me now. I absolutely REFUSE to vote Romney in the General Election, the Establishment can KMA hell form a line for all I care. I will sit this one out.


100 posted on 01/26/2012 10:35:47 AM PST by Bailee
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