Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

HMS Victory 'set to be recovered' from seabed
The BBC ^ | January 22, 2012 | The Sunday Times

Posted on 01/22/2012 8:39:16 AM PST by Makana

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-53 next last
To: Tijeras_Slim

Nissan Armada maybe ......:o)

Yeah I guess this old warship was the original hotbunk’n hell !


21 posted on 01/22/2012 10:07:27 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: HMS Surprise

Of interest *ping*


22 posted on 01/22/2012 10:47:01 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EagleUSA
the wood has got to be in real bad shape.

Not necessarily. Wood doesn't decay in the same way in anaerobic conditions. The much older Mary Rose, Henry VIII's flagship, was raised in a well-preserved state from the bed of soft silt in which she lay.

23 posted on 01/22/2012 12:33:15 PM PST by Winniesboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

On a three-decker like the Victory, every deck below, 2 gun decks and probably one or more decks below would be strung every night fore and aft with hammocks, which I think were allowed a regulation 16 or 18 inches width so that they could string hundreds of hammocks on each deck. In addition to these sleeping quarters, there would be separate spaces for midshipman, lieutenants, bosun, carpenter and others. And that answers how they could have 1,000 men aboard.


24 posted on 01/22/2012 12:43:34 PM PST by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: JewishRighter

Yeah, it was tight, cramped, full of people.
And these days we have huge steel ships.
And at times it’s hard to find anyone else onboard.


25 posted on 01/22/2012 12:57:33 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: EagleUSA

Depends how deep the water is there and what the bottom is like. If it sank into mud it might be very well conserved indeed.


26 posted on 01/22/2012 4:28:02 PM PST by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: JewishRighter
Here's a "cutaway" of the ship:


27 posted on 01/22/2012 6:04:21 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: wolficatZ

Reporters, academics....make up stuff all the time, yes. Yes, they do. Now....maybe in this case they’re dead accurate. Maybe, in the 18th century, they could build and sail a ship capable of carrying 1000 men along with provisions, supplies, etc., for more than a day cruise. Maybe so.

Still ain’t buying it.


28 posted on 01/22/2012 6:07:02 PM PST by RightOnline
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline

“Still ain’t buying it.”

Ok man.

Enjoy the ball game.

 
 
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6746464507_4b8dd80405_b.jpg
 
THE GENTLEMAN'S MAGAZINE, London, England, October, 1744

29 posted on 01/22/2012 7:13:50 PM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline

Academy grad. Aircraft commander. These facts about 19th century crew size are easily verifiable. Do yourself a favor: carry out five minutes of research and then back away from your position with your dignity relatively intact.


30 posted on 01/22/2012 9:12:06 PM PST by LifePath
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: wolficatZ; LifePath

http://www.hms-victory.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=79&Itemid=112

Again, sorta depends on who and what you read.....and who or what you believe.


31 posted on 01/23/2012 2:49:23 AM PST by RightOnline
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline; LifePath; wolficatZ
I had the good fortune to grow up in Portsmouth, and the masts of Nelson's Victory were visible most days of my life. At that time the duties of the great ship's tour guide were performed by a roster of Royal Marine cadets. I felt rather sorry for the poor lads, who would not, perhaps, have anticipated this when they joined the Service. They would fire off their rote-learned patter (mostly of facts and figures such as those you've been debating) with a red face and a parade-ground roar, for all the world as if they'd been reporting to their drill sergeant. I've not been back for years, but I imagine things are done rather differently these days.
32 posted on 01/23/2012 4:53:16 AM PST by Winniesboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline

This is a great web site, but the HMS Victory referred to in this post is not the same ship. The website you included is for the HMS Victory that was Nelson’s flagship at Trafalgar in 1805. I believe it is in dry dock at Portsmouth today. The HMS Victory that will be recovered from the sea bed is its predecessor, which sank in 1744 with all hands lost. Contemporary accounts (one of which is posted above) put its crew at around 1100, which is larger than the crew of the 1805 HMS Victory.


33 posted on 01/23/2012 8:48:51 AM PST by LifePath
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Winniesboy

I’ve never been to the UK, but when I do visit the HMS Victory will be on the short list of places to visit.


34 posted on 01/23/2012 8:57:01 AM PST by LifePath
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks MNJohnnie. Looks like this work has been condemned by the PSACN (Provisional Self-Appointed Committee of Nimrods).

Underwater archaeology ping!

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


35 posted on 01/25/2012 4:10:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Winniesboy; EagleUSA

About the wood: I don’t know why some wood rots, and some doesn’t. And I don’t know the temps of the waters where the ship sank. But, they have recovered loads of wood lost in the Great Lakes from the late 1700s to the late 1800s and they sell it for furniture. It’s quite valuable.


36 posted on 01/25/2012 4:26:59 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: manc

Thank you for that link. I added it to the destinations folder that I am compiling for when the husband and I visit England in the distant future.


37 posted on 01/25/2012 5:13:27 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: afraidfortherepublic

I think the wood you speak of is at extremely great depths and sometimes protected by the mud at the bottom.


38 posted on 01/25/2012 5:18:53 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline

Go get a book about ships of that era. The triremes of BC times were ever so much smaller,, no bigger than 50 foot yacht, and still carried a couple hundred men on board.


39 posted on 01/25/2012 5:29:41 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Charles Martel

Thirty guys to man the sump pump?

Oh, my...

No wonder they had to “impress” people into service ...


40 posted on 01/25/2012 5:56:51 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-53 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson